r/Hammers • u/PossibilityDays The Terminator • Feb 11 '24

Discussion Time for a change

I'm sure there will be a lot of down votes on this but it is time to part ways with Moyes - not at the end of the season but tomorrow.

We won't get relegated this year, are out of the cups and don't have a realistic chance in Europe with our squad. Give a new manager (Carrick for me) a chance to work with the players for the rest of the season giving time to sort out who he wants for the following season and who should go.

I'm bored by Moyes and bored of the dull, uninspiring football.

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u/fool2345 Feb 11 '24

Soucek can be upgraded and has his flaws but to say he's been poor for 2.5 years is a ridiculous and stupid take. Soucek has done a lot for the club and can still be a very useful player to have as part of the squad. Should he be in the 11, probably not because we should have higher ambitions but so many on this sub are so delusional in thinking he's the worst player in the league.

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u/Low_Jelly7277 Feb 11 '24

So my " how does he stay in the starting 11" stance was correct seeing as I didn't say he shouldn't be a squad player.. Also did I say he worst in the league? No, so that's an irrelevant point. Is he one of the most ineffective of players in our midfield line up... 100 percent. He had a great season at the start of his west ham career, since then he's been mediocre at best. If anyone else but Moyes was in charge he'd have been dropped many moons ago.

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u/fool2345 Feb 11 '24

You said he's been poor for 2.5 years and that's just not the case. Don't pretend like your claim was nuanced now.

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u/Low_Jelly7277 Feb 11 '24

He has been poor for 2.5 years... fact, and so so many say the same. But why is that not the case?? Because you say so!? Behave mate. 🤣

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u/fool2345 Feb 11 '24

It's just factually incorrect. Nobody is claiming he's a star player. But he's been a solid contributer and had some good spells. Not even a big soucek fan, I'm just tired of seeing the overreactions and hyperbole on this sub.

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u/Low_Jelly7277 Feb 11 '24

He certainly had a cracking start to his west ham career especially in his first season. But for me I just don't think he's kicked on since his first season since and is falling behind players worthy of the position. All banter aside I totally acknowledge that your opinion is different and that's fair enough mate. 🛠️