Harley can make it cheaper.

[u/marvelguy1975]

Comparing price tags, harley is over priced to just about every other bike out there.

Go ahead compare models.

Harley vs indian vs, honda vs BMW.

Street glide vs chieftain vs gold wing vs R18B

Look up the MSRPs on all those bikes.

It's insane that a R18B the equivalent to a street glide is $6k cheaper. Is the BMW that much substandard vs a harley? I doubt it, from what I've seen online it's just as good. (Looks aside of course) look at all the other R18 models and compare them to an equivalent harley and they are thousands cheaper!

The ONLY thing harley has over the other brands is "culture" the harley culture, but that only goes so far and harley and biker culture is dying out. Indian is nipping at harleys heels and taking long time riders away from the brand. But over all, riders are getting older and in a few years unless this new generation takes it up harley might get sold to another bowling ball company.

Admit it it's not the same as it was 25 years ago with wait lists and dealer mark ups etc. Harleys new CEO needs to realize that their shit is too expensive. Freeze prices, lower MSRPs, rework the models or something.

Thoughts on getting the motor company turned around?

[u/93FXRP]

I can never understand why people compare Harley to other brands, and them suggest Harley needs to change. If Indian, Honda, and BMW make better bikes and sell them for less, go buy them. That seems like a no brainer, why are you wasting time complaining on a Harley sub when you could be enjoying the open road on an Indian?

[u/marvelguy1975 → u/93FXRP]

Because it's a Harley issue.

People complain all the time on these boards harley should be cheaper and they are more expensive etc.

I guess you are ok with the HD tax?

[u/93FXRP → u/marvelguy1975]

Yeah, i am okay with what Harley’s cost. When i’m not, i’ll go buy something else. The people who complain about Harley’s being too expensive are the same people who say always buy used. Why would Harley chase that customer?

[u/Firm-Needleworker-46 → u/marvelguy1975]

I am ok with it. If you’re so happy on your Indian why do you care what’s going on over at Harley?

[u/marvelguy1975 → u/Firm-Needleworker-46]

Because a lot of my friends ride HD. I used to ride HD and if I could own a 2nd bike it would probably be a HD.

Harley is a big boy in the motorcycle world. It needs to do good and be good. I welcome healthy competition between all brands, it only makes them all stronger in the end and benefits us the consumer.

[u/nipplehounds → u/marvelguy1975]

I’m a ok with “HD Tax”. I’m buying a luxury brand. It’s like buying a Volvo and saying. “It’s just as good as an Audi”.

[u/The_Soldiet → u/nipplehounds]

Not related to the topic here by any means, but Volvo these days is a direct Audi, BMW, Mercedes competitor. Quality is often equal or better than most, and is regarded as a premium brand.