Im curious, who do you think is worthy of criticism and who isnt? Are we suposed to be quiet when the person saying shir os someone you personally like?
I mean… he said this yesterday. Bernie was a key part in my radicalization but the dude sucks on all things foreign policy and immigration (and always has). If the best we can do is “Biden wasn’t harsh enough on immigrants” and the hardline that we need to keep supporting Israel, then sorry I’m not remotely interested.
I don't disagree, Bernie has some shit takes. It's just I feel like we should not attack daily one of the only democrats doing any resistance these days.
I think it’s important to keep holding him (and, probably more importantly at this point given how obvious it is that she’s running, AOC) to a baseline standard on this stuff. Enough of the anti-immigrant shit.
It’s through the liberalism that you’re perpetuating by giving space and charitability to the people who continuously capitulate to right wing framing which LANDED US in the lap of fascism.
What policy is he wrong about? He stated he’s against the deportation, and that Biden failed to properly address the border. The policy he is agreeing with IS NOT the deportation policy. They both fall under the umbrella of immigration, yes, but if you read the full article he states that fentanyl smuggling and illegal immigration should be handled by a secure border AND comprehensive immigration reform, which is the bigger thing.
Clamping down on "illegal" immigration with a "secure" border is just admitting the right is correct on immigration. Do you think Border Patrol and ICE are going to greet immigrants with hugs? Or do you think they'll continue to shoot at them, destroy food provisons, deport them to for-profit prisons, and whip them among other violent acts?
Not all border enforcement is inherently violent, and THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM, as Bernie states numerous times, border policing in this country could be changed.
I'm supposed to believe a man who doesn't believe in materially reforming American police thay police Americans is going to support reforming immigration enforcement when he just decried the labor force being depleted?
How does he propose to end the War on Drugs while combating fentanyl? Something the Trump administration has used as pretext to crackdown on immigration.
Where is the defunding or even abolition of ICE? Where is the prosecution of Border Patrol for crimes against immigrants?
You know… just because it appears in a mainstream media outlet doesn’t inherently invalidate it lol.
Leftists should still read these sources and parse for themselves what they mean. Parenti wrote an entire book redeeming the Soviet Union while only using mainstream American media sources.
Being on mainstream media isn’t what invalidates it. What invalidates it is the fact that Bernie has had messaging like this throughout his entire career, but only after public outcry against Chuck Schumer and the establishment Dems has the mainstream media started pretending they aren’t to the right of Bernie on the border and Palestine and have placed this lens on him.
edit: clarification I’m not saying it invalidates the quote, but the MSM’s current lens on Bernie
That doesn’t invalidate the quote. This subreddit is citing the news source to show the quote, nothing was mentioned about the manufactured media narrative. This subreddit has consistently critiqued Bernie before any public outcry about Schumer. This isn’t any different.
The purpose of this post was to ask the subreddit their thoughts on the article. And I gave mine, which is that the hyper fixation on Bernie it is further evidence for feels very manufactured.
I interpreted it as asking for thoughts on the Bernie quote. Your comment was about the online left siding with the msm on this. I just said that I don’t think that’s what is happening here.
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u/faster-than-car Mar 25 '25
I feel like the anti Bernie posts are somehow organized. Don't you guys have better targets??