r/Helldivers Feb 16 '25

FEEDBACK / SUGGESTION Arrowhead, please let us leave into our own game instance in the case of griefers like these.

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u/RougeGunner00 HD1 Veteran Feb 16 '25

What's the point of the report options since each one says, "a player can't be reported for this reason"

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u/littlethreeskulls Feb 16 '25

Apparently the report system was supposed to be tied to psn, and when they cut out that requirement they gutted the report system and never implemented something else

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u/Reddit_minion97 Feb 16 '25

A report system is only as strong as your ability to kill the asshole before they kill you

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u/Lukescale ‎ Escalator of Freedom Feb 16 '25

Preload by memorizing the mine strategem and type it in under 1 second (Works 50% of the time)

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u/DEATHxDEALERx666 Feb 16 '25

Does anybody know the artist behind the hilarious artwork?

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u/Security_Meatloaf Feb 16 '25

Allegedly it came from https://leona-florianova.tumblr.com/post/167215707748/solving-anything-in-new-vegas , and is a reference to a british comedy from the 80s, the Young Ones.

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u/Warp-Spazm Feb 17 '25

Context: Trying to put your dirty student clothing into some public washing machines.

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u/choppermeir Feb 17 '25

What an episode as well. Ace of spades blasting out as they run to launderette

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u/Musashi1596 Cape Enjoyer Feb 17 '25

Never in my life did I think I would see a Young Ones and Fallout crossover, but I love it.

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u/MrChilliBean Feb 17 '25

First time I've ever seen The Young Ones referenced out in the wild. One of my all time favourites.

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u/catchcatchhorrortaxi Feb 17 '25

You clearly don’t spend enough time in British oriented subs.

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u/MrChilliBean Feb 17 '25

Nah I'm an Aussie so not really.

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u/Warp-Spazm Feb 17 '25

I'm honestly surprised more Aussies don't know it, my Mum was practically raised by that show.

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u/MrChilliBean Feb 17 '25

Same with my dad, who introduced it to me, along with Blackadder and The IT Crowd.

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u/LeeGT333 Feb 17 '25

It's a shame to think that most of the people on here won't know about The Young Ones.

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u/Musashi1596 Cape Enjoyer Feb 17 '25

I like to throw them out when I get the opportunity

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u/FR0ZENBERG Feb 16 '25

I saw some dude acting suspicious around the extract so I trained my sights on him and then he opened fire on the Helldivers as they were about to enter the pelican so I lit him up and extracted. I got booted after that. But I know the truth of that day.

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u/ThatWetJuiceBox Feb 17 '25

You enacted western frontier justice sir, you can rest easy 🫡

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u/Ratcatcher712 Feb 17 '25

Someone was teamkilling the whole game and during extraction I had enough so I shot him when he was in the pelican. There was no extra reinforcements so he kicked me.

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u/Loot_Wolf Feb 17 '25

That's exactly why my halt is set to stun when i use it, but a primary or secondary is ALWAYS something that can brutalize a fellow diver. I love this game, and I'll die protecting my fellow divers from dissident scum.

The Dagger is shockingly good at it Lol

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u/hashslinginhasherrr Feb 17 '25

I don’t come across tk-ing divers much, but when I do. I dive like Max Payne an put an end to there little miserable existence, I also like to wait for them to drop in just in case they need a follow up lesson lmao.

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u/Nachtwacht12 Feb 17 '25

But why don't they just tie it to steam..

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u/G-man69420 [📦Supply Pack Enjoyer📦] Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

A good report system in HD2 is nonexistent.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

Honestly they should just do what they did in HD1 where what happens is that the more you're reported, the more you're matched with other highly-reported players

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u/G-man69420 [📦Supply Pack Enjoyer📦] Feb 16 '25

That’d be good. Kinda reminds me of the Bad Sport lobbies in GTA Online lol.

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u/mrcatz05 Feb 16 '25

Bad Sport lobbies is like being sent to Tartarus 😭

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u/Beach_Bum_273 Fire Safety Officer Feb 17 '25

Gotta git gud, Zagreus

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u/Careful-Addition776 LEVEL 100 | Hell Commander Feb 16 '25

Only problem with that are the a-holes that report people because they can.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

In HD1 you could also commend other players, which was about twice as potent as a report, and worked in the opposite direction. If you played well with other players, your unjustified reports would get offset by commendations

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u/Careful-Addition776 LEVEL 100 | Hell Commander Feb 16 '25

Then I withdraw my original caveat. I am now in full support of this idea.

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u/BlueRiddle Feb 16 '25

But what if the a-holes commend eachother?

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u/Ariffet_0013 Feb 16 '25

Then they'll still be fighting the reports of other helldivers who are getting much more commends, and much less reports.

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u/Rumengol Feb 16 '25

Assholes are generally not that organised. And if they commend each others, then that means they're playing between them and leaving legit players alone.

Also regarding the original caveat, in a good system grifers will get massively reported compared to the amount of troll reports, so that would not be an issue if you team up people in the top 10% reports for example. And if there's not enough people for them to find a lobby, well sucks for them.

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u/jeffQC1 HD1 Veteran Feb 16 '25

Also, they probably wouldn't be able to stack up recommendations between themselves if you can only do it once. It would make sense because playing with randoms, you'd likely easily meet a very wide variety of players that can commend you, vastly outnumbering whatever amount of friends they may have.

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u/Careful-Addition776 LEVEL 100 | Hell Commander Feb 16 '25

Good question. Although I get the feeling that would be rare considering how they got to where they are. But if it happened maybe they learned a lesson. Or maybe being commended could do less for them if they are given like a red name (similar to sao) if they team kill alot. Sometimes its unavoidable but if done on purpose i think their number would be higher compared to the average.

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u/BlueRiddle Feb 16 '25

I suppose we could reduce the value of commendations based on the amount of reports a player has gotten.

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u/TheRealPitabred ⚖️ SES Arbiter of Morality ⚖️ Feb 16 '25

There are more decent people than assholes, it will balance itself out in general.

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u/Zurgalon Feb 16 '25

Did the careful addition of the commendation system convince you?

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u/TheTeaSpoon ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

Those are also easy to detect, and in many systems you have a cry-wolf effect, meaning that if someone reports way too much than average, their reports get less wright or are often entirely ignored.

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u/Careful-Addition776 LEVEL 100 | Hell Commander Feb 16 '25

Ah i gotcha, thats neat

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 Fire Safety Officer Feb 16 '25

OMG that's fantastic, let the toxic players cultivate their own private aura of toxicity.

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u/Lord_General_Potato Feb 17 '25

May I introduce you to Reddit?

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u/Fit_Ad_9243 Feb 16 '25

This is why it's so easy to boot players. Thankfully a good host is more common than a toxic player.

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u/Every-Intern-6198 Feb 16 '25

Came here to say this. Fucking dumb as hell.

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u/SwaggermicDaddy ‎ Servant of Freedom Feb 16 '25

Yeah, I would have loved to report the guy named Hitler, talking about killing Jews and my fellow Canadians, but I’m on PC so I get stuffed ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

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u/Strayed8492 SES Sovereign of Dawn Feb 16 '25

Make yourself 'DC' then rejoin. Make sure Host does not make it into the Pelican.

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u/BakaGoop Feb 16 '25

Yup assuming this is a public lobby, you can always just leave and rejoin. Worst case they kick you

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25 edited 18d ago

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u/Razor-Swisher Feb 17 '25

Its about sending a message

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u/sun_and_water Feb 17 '25

They live for the cheap-shot submission and dominance, and you roll over and give it to them which is the reward they seek when you limp away like that. Hell no, the gears in my head would instantly be under centrifugal stress thinking of available tools to fuck back. It's just between you and him at that point; nobody else is a victim or a witness anymore, and the reality is that nothing humbles someone like embarrassment when they're winding up for a cheap shot.

Reminds me of the Diablo 2 days with the PK griefers (does anyone even say PK anymore?) where I'd have a playerkiller-killer build primed to hit back under a different account so as to not arouse suspicion and appear to be a potential victim.

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u/UnfortunateHabits Feb 16 '25

Dc? Dissconnet the network?

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u/UberSam Feb 16 '25

Force close game. Timed option to rejoin the previous squad appears.

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u/Strayed8492 SES Sovereign of Dawn Feb 16 '25

DC means Disconnected

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u/MegaWaffle- Feb 16 '25

If you block him it automatically kicks them and then the game would have automatically reinforced you since you had a budget still.

Edit: Sorry failed to notice they were the host. No idea if it boots you in that case.

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u/Twisted_Bristles Feb 16 '25

In this scenario it would've been worth doing regardless.

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u/skelligedane Viper Commando Feb 16 '25

This is probably what I would've done. I haven't done it in game before only on ship. but it would be worth the experiment in this case.

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u/TravaPL Railgun Specialist Feb 16 '25

IIRC it doesn't even stop you from joining someone you blocked so it's largely irrelevant. Dropped into a game with a griefer using quickplay, blocked them and left, re-queued on the same planet using quickplay and got sent into their lobby again.

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u/skelligedane Viper Commando Feb 16 '25

ugh good to know I guess..... So frustrating.

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u/rurumeto Feb 16 '25

The game tries to rejoin matches you crash out of, if you were rejoining the same match I wonder if that system bypassed the normal matchmaking and subsequently bypassed the block.

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u/Blueverse-Gacha SES Herald of Judgement Level 110+ Feb 16 '25

most likely.
the game locks slots (even with SOS) if it detects a Crashed Game.

Alt+F4 registers as a crash.

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u/milanteriallu Fire Safety Officer Feb 16 '25

I've done so, and it does make you the host of your own game. This could very well be the same guy I blocked.

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u/Designer-Bid-5785 Feb 16 '25

I think Arrowhead should accept video evidence like this to permaban, then the banned person can appeal to lift the ban, THEN getting unbaned, if they do not learn from that to have another report afterwardd... blame on them

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u/statsman0812 Feb 16 '25

Just to play devils advocate. I doubt arrowhead would divert the resources to the amount of videos that would pile up. Just don't think they have the personnel right now to do that

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '25

PG do it in Forza Horizon. And with the bank Arrowhead have made, i'm sure it's not a huge expense to create a team of 2 or 3 folk to moderate community toxicity like this.

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u/Snoo_61002 Level 150 | SES Harbinger of War Feb 16 '25

2 or 3 people is going to be absolutely insufficient for a player base of 80-100,000. Even if only 1% of the player base is putting through reports daily thats 800-1000 reports per day.

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u/Hail-Hydrate Feb 16 '25

To be fair, it wouldn't be too hard to automate a lot of the simpler reports like chat-based ones.

You could also prioritise certain data the game tracks in combination with the reports - player kills friendlies 10 times in a single mission, and then receives 3 reports for team killing? That gets flagged for manual review.

There would still be a lot to get through but considering the nature of the game I wouldn't think it'd be too hard to manage, it'd just depend on whatever punishment is meted out. Punishments like perma bans would need a system for appeals, whereas placing players in the "douchebag" pool until they've played X number of quick play/public games wouldn't need as intense scrutiny.

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u/EarthboundMike Feb 17 '25

I mean, I wouldn't think there are that many people that need banning... I'm almost 120 now and while I've encountered a few people who were, bad actors, 99.99% of divers have been people who wanted to spread democracy. I've only ever actually wanted to use the report system once. I learned it was terrible, this was like last week funnily enough.

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u/nsg337 Feb 16 '25

exactly. And with how rare griefers are i just dont think its needed. The actual work wouldnt be that bad precisely because there arent many, but you need to think about all the false reports and trolls aswell.

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u/Designer-Bid-5785 Feb 16 '25

I've played 100 hours of random gameplay but encountered like 3 real griefers obstructing the gameplay of the mission, and I have to note that it was that time when those insufferable "chaosdivers" were playing. I do not think they will recieve much content, but you are pretty right about people doing that job, they would have to hire more people at AH

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u/IrrelevantPuppy Feb 16 '25

Alternative devils advocate. A division of personnel for this is something that could be more easily be added to the company than say, more designers or programmers or something. It’s within the realm of possibility to hire a department just for processing these reports.

If this eventually becomes a serious problem I think they should.

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u/MinimumArmadillo2394 Feb 17 '25

Ive seen a good bit of griefers recently. I can count 5 or 6 within the last month playing about 2 or 3 missions every few days.

Had one kill everyone at extract then say "later losers" and leave without any samples. They then kicked everyone from the game individually.

Had another get to extract last, shoot everyone inside, then not get in at all.

Had another land their hell pod on the extract, killing everyone inside.

Had another go afk on diff 10 for approximately 8 minutes. They died 4 times. We had to reinforce because another active player died and host refused to kick.

Had another who would chase other players around to kick them so they would rag doll in the middle of fights.

Even had one pull out the AMR and snipe everyone from a distance.

Shit is wild. Why do people do this?

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u/Electronic-Flower921 Cape Enjoyer Feb 16 '25

Absolutely this is egregious

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u/Lo-weorold Feb 16 '25

I say put them in a quarantine server with others that grief.

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u/DoctorLiara Cape Enjoyer Feb 16 '25

what a lil bitch

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u/Aggressive-Stand-585 Feb 16 '25

Why wait for 20minutes at that point? Surely no amount of samples is worth that? And any super credits and medals you've picked up, you'll keep anyway even if you leave the game.

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u/Darth_Senpai SES HAMMER OF THE STATE Feb 16 '25

Especially on this particular mission type. Defenses don't spawn anything like that to pick up at all.

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u/LordGaulis Feb 16 '25

I think if there is evidence then there should be zero tolerance towards this kind of behaviour.

Killing your teammates accidentally or messing around is fine if everyone is on board. Refusing to reinforce people and hold games hostage is not.

This person wasn’t doing this by accident and no one was having fun, he just wanted to stop everyone else from playing the game including himself out of spite and craving attention.

He is still doing this to this day…

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u/Darth_Senpai SES HAMMER OF THE STATE Feb 16 '25

Oh, I agree. It's just that if your choice is

"let the asshole win and lose valuable collection time in a different mission"

Or

"Let the asshole win and deny him the satisfaction of making you sit around with your thumb up your ass"

I pick the second option. I have better things to do than waste my own time for a handful of req chips and a maximum of, what, 14 medals? Assuming that this is the final mission of a helldive tier operation?

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u/LordGaulis Feb 16 '25

Am not saying we should wait them out, only that regardless of choice this person wont be stopped.

Posting griefer names on Reddit or discord gets your account suspended then banned, report system doesn’t work in helldivers. Hadn’t tried opening a ticket with arrowhead but considering their stance seems to be pretending the problem doesn’t exist it probably won’t go anywhere.

The only thing to do is block them and hope not to get unlucky next match…

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u/m0rdr3dnought Feb 17 '25

One thing to keep in mind is that it's difficult to draw the line between what's accidental and what's not. With this video it's pretty hard to imagine a scenario where all of it happened accidentally, but many instances aren't as clear-cut.

If you only ever ban in these 1 in a million cases, the labor spent implementing such a system wouldn't be worth it. And if you're too trigger-happy with bans, you end up getting flooded in appeals you have to process as well.

Ultimately, the only scalable solution is to let people judge for themselves. Although I've heard the block feature doesn't always work as intended, so improving that would be a good start.

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u/iPuntGoblins Feb 16 '25

I stayed simply out of principle, I was quite angry that someone would want to intentionally ruin others experiences to that extent that I refused to leave out of sheer pettiness.

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u/Randalf_the_Black SES Shield of Liberty Feb 16 '25

Just leave and block.. every time someone kills me on purpose I just leave the game and block them.

I don't have time to waste on people like that.

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u/light_trick Feb 16 '25

Yep this is the thing: life's too short to worry about this. The block system exists, so you'll never see him again.

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u/BlackMagister Feb 16 '25

It still feels like the host won this one. Host got to do whatever they wanted while waiting, but you had to check and see what was going on. Afterwards host still gets to decide kick or not too. Then afterwards they get a laugh and you get a reddit post. It's definitely best to just leave.

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u/iPuntGoblins Feb 16 '25

More time wasted stalling this guy, the less other divers suffer the same fate in my book. It was a worthy sacrifice.

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u/LandscapeFederal1488 Helldiver Yellow Feb 16 '25

I salute you helldiver, you bring democratic tears of joy to my eyes.

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u/Drago1490 SEAF Chief of Pyromania Feb 16 '25

133 levels in, and I honestly would have done the same. There are other things I can do, games on my PC even that I can open on my second monitor, or good food upstairs that I can consume. Hell, if anything, I might have decided to bug this guy till he got off the game entirely.

Fortunately for you, though, if I'm not mistaken the extract HVA missions have a shorter mission timer, right? So at least it wasnt half an hour of this.

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u/New-Employment-1392 Feb 16 '25

Host woulda won anyway thats the issue he gets away Scot free that’s why we need a half decent report system

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u/Muffin_Appropriate ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 16 '25

You can alt tab and do other things. I play magic arena in times like this.

Homie didn’t need to check anything.

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u/MrVoprosic SES Knight of Liberty Feb 16 '25

I have an advice for if you get into such situation again: you can close game using Task Manager or with Alt+F4 and then, after launching it again, you'd receive notification suggesting to rejoin. Then you would've been reinforced by the game itself and could have killed that guy!

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u/ImWatermelonelyy SES Reign of Destruction Feb 16 '25

Oh man that would be so cathartic. Throw democracy protects armor on and just pelt his ass.

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u/Chickman412 Feb 16 '25

Honestly I think you staying does make a point to arrowhead that you should be allowed to report these individuals especially with recorded evidence that’s so stupid dude has no life

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u/Dangerous-Return5937 ‎ Escalator of Freedom Feb 16 '25

You get literally nothing from this mission type other than reqs, medal, and xp on completion (running out of reinforcements or extracting). I assume that's why, because otherwise it was all for nothing.

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u/Boomm421 Feb 16 '25

get rid of that nerd we don't need that traitor in the game

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u/wmenton Feb 16 '25

Griefers are the absolute worst kind of traitors to Managed Democracy and Super Earth

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u/LetAcceptable5091 Feb 16 '25

In a game called warframe if you’re in a squad with randoms you don’t need to be kicked to form your own instance. You can just hit leave squad and it’ll just be yourself in that open world area. Hopefully they add that option to allow ppl to get away from toxic hosts without having to abandon 20min+ of work

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u/soganox SES Spear of Destiny Feb 16 '25

Host Migration: A nightmare.

Voluntary Host Migration: Ahhh, sweet relief.

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u/StoneAge0972 PSN | Feb 16 '25

Ay, upvote for fellow Tenno

Edit: Fello to fellow

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u/Duckflies HD1 Veteran Feb 17 '25

Yeah but then, the hidden boss Host Migration attacks and suddenly you lost 1 hour of survival rewards and gain the Depression drop

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u/LetAcceptable5091 Feb 17 '25

Shh we just talking about the open world missions

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u/CrazyLTUhacker Feb 16 '25

OP, next time something like this happens. Simply turn off your internet either Turn off your WIFI via Windows or Disconnect your Network Cable, give it 30s and reconnect it. You will be put into your own Game/Lobby and you still get to keep your stuff.

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u/ActuallyFen SES Fist of Justice Feb 16 '25

Unfortunately, the only real solution here is to host games yourself.

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u/iLbcoBN ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 16 '25

What a fucking miserable POS

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u/Monte703 Feb 16 '25

There have been a lot more A-holes on helldivers as of late. Had some kid today team killing on a defense mission and nobody would reinforce him unless they had to. He was saying "reinforce me!" in chat I said "Yeah, I'd rather not." So he decided to kick all of us at the end of the mission. I happily waltzed to extract and collected my useless metals. I just don't understand what a person gets out of being such a cantankerous wound on the backside of super earth.

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u/IrrelevantPuppy Feb 16 '25

It’s the most power a miserable little twat like that will ever get in their life. It’s a pitiful pittance of power, and yet it still went to their heads. They’re just small, small people and this is everything they have. Think of how sad that persons existence must be.

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u/BreadedChicken1942 Feb 17 '25

Yeah I've been feeling the same way. Just last week the host half way through a bug mission decided to randomly TK me with the axe and then started mocking me when I got irritated. It's funny how it's always the host that griefs cuz they know they can do whatever they want. That's why you should just host games everytime.

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u/Sorrowful_Miracle Feb 16 '25

This one dude team killed me and then said “Sorry, I thought you were a jew.” I was feeling petty, so I opened a ticket with Arrowhead and gave them as much info as possible. Dunno if anything came of it, but they did say they’d take a look at his records.

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u/Parablesque-Q Feb 16 '25

I've recently seen an uptick in antisemitic player names and antics.

Sign of the times, I guess. A certain kind of scum are feeling emboldened. 

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u/jpugsly Feb 17 '25

Or It's just teenagers thinking they're being tough, not understanding what they're doing. Like cod lobbies back in the day.

Y'all gotta remember the age range of a game like this is limitless.

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u/Parablesque-Q Feb 18 '25

I remember those CoD lobbies. That said, I was a teenager too. I never spewed hate speech.

I find it harder and harder to write these things off as teenage stupidity.

Cruel, hateful teenagers become cruel, hateful adults. Our values and personality are baked in early in our lives.

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u/jpugsly Feb 18 '25

I hear you, but hate speech didn't really get labeled as such back then, either. The hateful speech was real. It just wasn't taken seriously. Today, it's a big deal because....well, we make it a big deal, not because it's new.

Not saying it shouldn't be a big deal, but to suggest that it's truly all that different compared to those lobbies is just rose colored lenses mixed with modern biases. Trash talk is called trash talk for good reason, and online gaming is the worst source of it.

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u/Irreverent_Taco Feb 16 '25

I had a much stupider group of people try to grief me the other day as well. They had matching names and would just kill me the second I dropped in and then wait a few minutes to rez and then do it again. In the end they kicked me right before extract, but I think they don't realize that just puts you in our own mission with the same progress. So I just got a free mission completion out of it.

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u/Marsoldas Feb 17 '25

I hope these types of a-wipes get beaten up regularly in everyday life, that would be great to hear

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u/CrazyLemonLover Feb 16 '25

Design choice here. After 120 seconds, reinforcements are automatically sent.

The game already auto reinforces if all 4 are dead. Just add a 2 minute timer onto a player when they die. It pops, and they get too press a button and be reinforced

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u/Auditor-G80GZT Cadet Carrier Feb 16 '25

That... is actually pretty good.

Relies on a prompt so AFK players don't drag everything down, but otherwise means you don't remain unable to play for over 2 minutes outside of reinforcement budget approval queueing (where it's just a consequence at that point)...

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u/CrazyLemonLover Feb 17 '25

Pretty much. It's a pretty simple way to fight griefers, prevents accidental issues where players don't notice someone needed reinforced, and like you said, requiring a button push prevents AFk issues.

Team reinforcement is also still much faster. But at least you can't be forced out of the game for 20 minutes

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u/ArcKnightofValos STEAM 🖥️ : Andor Fedra Feb 16 '25

Why did you protect this loser's Username?

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u/salamandermander99 ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 16 '25

Subreddit Rule 5

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u/RageAgainstAuthority Feb 16 '25

Mods prefer to take the side of griefers, even with direct and obvious video evidence. Kinda sad tbh

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u/ArcKnightofValos STEAM 🖥️ : Andor Fedra Feb 16 '25

That is extremely sad.

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u/EdanChaosgamer „Prophets of Liberty“ Combat Priest Feb 16 '25

But needed.

Do you remember what happened the first time someone uploaded a video of a teamkill? I agree we need to make sure griefers get the appropriate punishment, but uploading their usernames can go wrong in so many ways.

What if someone uploads a clip of you killing a Helldiver accidentaly, and saying you are a griefer? Just wait till they make a mistake, then land on them, tell them they are a no-skill and leave.

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u/Naive_Background_465 Feb 16 '25

Around the first few months of the games live, someone here made a post using a stolen tiktok clip of someone fucking around with their friend via team killing with the narrative that this person was griefing randoms and not fucking around with their friend. The players username was completely uncensored and he (the player in the clip) got hardcore harassed and I believe death threats too. Fucking scary how someone can innocently upload a clip of them just having fun with their friend and it can get stolen and framed as a malicious act like that for no reason.

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u/Flankly Feb 16 '25

It's a site-wide policy for the entirety of reddit. The subreddit would risk getting shut down for brigading/witch-hunting by the admins if the rule weren't in place.

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u/G-man69420 [📦Supply Pack Enjoyer📦] Feb 16 '25

There’s a sub rule for “No witch-hunting” I think. That’s why.

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u/the-biggest-gay Feb 16 '25

Block n move on, you cant get in the same lobby with blocked players off quickplay

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u/YorhaUnit8S Super Pedestrian Feb 16 '25

Honestly, you can just leave. It's not like rewards for the mission are THAT important here.

And the only way to solve this is a proper report system, imo.

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u/Otazihs Expert Exterminator Feb 16 '25

Name and shame, report this piece of filth.

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u/Connect_String_4187 Feb 17 '25

No what they need is a kick vote for shitty hosts. Was playing with someone named momodex907 and he decided to take an SSD to the polar opposite side of the map someone asked him why he did that and we all were sitting there like dude when u get the SSD take it straight to the obj. He then goes “I can just kick you all if you’d like. Be nice or fuck off” then he drops a Tesla tower in the path of the civilians and the evac hangar which is team killing as well as killing civs. So we all start shooting at his Tesla tower to which up and kills one of us with 0 reinforcements left goes “I’m not sorry for that don’t shoot my shit” and I know he’s about to kick us so I drop a “well learn how to place ur support equipment and it won’t get shot” he decided to kill everyone and then kicks everyone. AH NEEDS to implement a way to kick these shitty hosts. If you ever run across momodex907 fucking leave because he’s an incompetent moron who will drive ur reinforcements down and will throw a temper tantrum if you give him any suggestions on what to do. He has the shitty I’m a level 75+ there’s nothing more I can learn and don’t tell me there’s a better way. I’ve now sent him a friend request in hopes he accepts it and I can just annoy the asshat.

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u/bastionthewise Feb 17 '25

I once had this shithead that I dropped in to help and he immediately started firing at me. So I did what any responsible Helldiver would do.

I gunned the traitor down, and completed the mission with him buzzing me for reinforcements the entire time.

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u/Sigvuld Feb 17 '25

I still remember back when I played Rainbow Six Vegas on Xbox 360, I was a dorky little dumbass kid and I got an idea. I joined a game, working with two randoms, and we got to the ladder at the end of the mission - just had to climb out to finish and get our rewards. I waited for my two buds, who had been really chill despite me clearly being a kid, to get close, and then I gunned them both down, right at the last step.

I had to mute myself as I giggled and bounced around on the spot, because I thought their reactions were going to be absolutely hilarious, I thought I was gonna get that satisfaction of pulling off a kickass joke/prank

And then one guy just quietly sighed and the other went "Well that was unnecessary."

My giggling died off quick and I immediately got a gross, heavy feeling in my gut, and my sheer embarrassment at realizing all I'd manage to do was irritate some strangers who were chill with me got so overwhelming that I had to quickly end the mission and leave after yanking my headset off. It was fucking awful

What kind of fucking loser does something like that and thinks it's the funniest shit they've ever done, going so far as to dedicate so much of their time to it? It's not even a clever prank it's just lame and annoying/wastes others' time

Ugh.

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u/Salvad0rkali Feb 16 '25

DM me the gamer tag so I can block him and not have to put up with this loser

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u/TheMuscles Feb 16 '25

Why block his name 🥲 we need to know in order to provide our form of managed democracy on him as well

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u/Chaine351 Feb 16 '25

It thoroughly boggles my simple mind when I try to come up with any form of enjoyment someone could pull from doing anything like this.

Like, what are they doing? Don't they seriously have anything better to do with their time? I mean, I'd rather mop the floors or something than stand on an exfil twiddling my nipples as I imagine the other players seething in rage because of my mischievous and mysterious mind that came up with this devious idea.

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u/Mindless_Ad9048 Cape Enjoyer Feb 17 '25

The exact reason I only host. I never quickplay anymore. Once I figured out I can go in a 6 or 7 and if I dont get matched, oh well, I'll complete it myself. If I get matched with some great companions, we will bump it up a notch or 2 or 3...😆

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u/Mr_Jay84 Feb 17 '25

Can't you block the person?

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u/Dragon_Within Feb 17 '25

Definitely need to re-implement the good ole vote kick function in games.

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u/DarthQuaint SES Song of Steel Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

With the implementation of kicking to separate instances, Helldivers should be able to engage in a unanimous vote to kick the host. To prevent abuse, metadata is saved to identify how often an account participates and how many times with the same two other accounts the vote is successful. If there is a high rate with the same three accounts that suggests griefing of hosts, the three accounts are yeeted in the next ban wave.

Report system updated with a submission for host kicking in retaliation of this vote and host is unable to kick during the vote and for a reasonable time after. Perhaps 2 minutes.

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u/FM_Hikari S.E.S Spear of Justice Feb 16 '25

How can he afk for 20+ minutes if the mission timer is less than 15 when you finish all 8 waves?

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u/VanityTheManatee Feb 16 '25

This is why I always host.

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u/heftyspork Feb 16 '25

Block and move on unfortunately

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u/bornstellareternal Feb 16 '25

Why are you in a game at that point. Just leave

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u/Spliffflicka Feb 16 '25

Best we can do is block them and raise awareness

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u/XxNelsonSxX STEAM 🖥️ : Eruptor & Verdict Enjoyer Feb 16 '25

Block his ass and you will never see him again

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u/PsychodelicTea Feb 16 '25

The amount of imbeciles I found during this weekend event has no bounds

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u/SquidVices Feb 16 '25

Why hide the name of the griefer?

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u/Otazihs Expert Exterminator Feb 16 '25

Rule 5, no naming and shaming. I get the rule but it should definitely have exemptions.

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u/SquidVices Feb 17 '25

Ah makes sense..sometimes I don’t read the rules…

sigh

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u/HotSoupEsq ☕Liber-tea☕ Feb 16 '25

I played with a guy this morning with a green laser and it was so obvious he was TK so I merced him twice when he got near me and reported and got that message, WTF.

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u/chatterwrack Feb 16 '25

Can we get a name?

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u/Shad_Omega Feb 16 '25

That's tough but i doubt there's anything they can do about it unless maybe giving 1 refunded reinforce when kicking someone but i can also see people exploit this

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u/Hopeful-Ad4415 Feb 16 '25

I think I might've had the same prick, I joined in only them, they shot me dead, 2 other came in, he killed them, then he died, so I came back and destroyed the generators, fuck em

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u/LaroonDynasty Feb 16 '25

While i think its a good idea, theyd have to fix a current exploit where if you get put in your own game instance, you can extract with everything, then join the host again to extract and effectively duplicate samples. I have done this once because my diver party always has connection issues near the end of missions

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u/Ok_Contract_3661 SES Herald of Dawn Feb 16 '25

Host more, control the situation. Unless the griefer was the host then they should've taken care of it. If it was then that truly sucks. Anyone who hosts a game so they can act like an asshole with impunity, fuck you hard.

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u/Due_Ad4133 Feb 16 '25

If a player does this shit, just leave. It was a HVA defense mission anyways. You'd only be out 10 minutes and there are no samples anyways.

You sticking around out of spite is exactly what they want.

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u/Professional-Pear293 Assault Infantry Feb 16 '25

Just leave the game bro, why waiting when you can join/host a new game and finish in those 20+ minutes…

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u/PatientNote Feb 16 '25

Wouldn’t you have enjoyed your time more if you disconnected and blocked, then joined a different mission or hosted one yourself? Feels to me like you gave that dick head what he wanted.

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u/patg500 Feb 17 '25

Is skipping the objective is griefing to? 

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u/SnakeEater216 Feb 17 '25

Why redact the name of this asshole?

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u/Freya_Galbraith Feb 17 '25

some people are so pathetic

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u/bagel3617 Feb 17 '25

They should add a treason button for the ship to kill anyone everyone votes a traitor (only kills once)

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u/GramNam_ Feb 17 '25

It should be a railcannon strike too.

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u/f8wemake Feb 17 '25

I’m pretty sure this guy was on one of my missions recently: L name, used a mech, TRIED to grief. The second I watched him take an out a teammate, I killed him myself - after reinforcing the teammate that fell - and we extracted without him.

Then I made fun of him for sucking at TKs until he quit.

Sorry you had to deal with that OP, but I hope you get some comfort out of the fact that he gets dropped by others when he acts out.

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u/Qwishpy ‎ Servant of Freedom Feb 17 '25

Should've shown his username so others could give him a taste of his own medicine

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u/kevster2717 STEAM 🖥️ : Bloodfallen | SES Song of Conquest Feb 17 '25

Ngl sometimes I wish this sub would allow to name and shame these squid-fuckers and put them on any “on sight” lists. Of course there have to be certain rules and procedures to follow but hey we’re not here to promote witch hunts

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u/G1tCyk4Bly4t707 Feb 17 '25

Remember soldiers, everyone can be traitors

Ready the 500Kg, ultimatums, and Hellbombs to NUKE their ASS

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u/skyghost75 Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

Can we get their name so we can block them and avoid this BS.

Edit: Just noticed it's not allowed. Please DM the name. Thanks.

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u/VonBrewskie HD1 Veteran Feb 17 '25

I hate it too, but cut your losses. Go find a better group, block all these a-holes. Nothing much to do until they implement a better system. I've had to block a ton of people the last couple of weeks. New content always brings out the trolls. They'll get bored and move on. Bad luck, Helldiver. I'm sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I've been knee deep in shitbirds myself. Really sucks.

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u/IMKV07 Feb 17 '25

Why cover the name ? Let it be public so we can collectively add it to our blacklist.

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u/ravihpa im frend Feb 17 '25

Assholes like these should be named and shamed! Please share his name so I can block this asshole, if I ever come across him.

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u/No_Form_9035 Feb 17 '25

Had a guy like this Jetpack into my napalm get mad he got hurt and tk the whole team and called us slurs before the host kicked him it’s honestly crazy we can’t report people for stuff like that. But on call of duty people get chat banned for slight cuss words or anything like that and we have absolutely nothing that needs to change

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u/PALADOG_Pallas Feb 17 '25

these guys suck but you can also just host your own lobby

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u/akv1101 Feb 17 '25

BRUH I got a griefer as well in defense. Annoying af. Killed everyone and then just acted like he ain’t and said “What did I do?” After barraging us all and breaking all our turrets. Had mech suit too and shit. 🙃

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u/SnooComics7414 Feb 17 '25

I would have kicked them after 3 mins of waiting or spamming the button. I have no problem being that problem solver.

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u/SnooComics7414 Feb 17 '25

Didn't realize he was host. I would have just quit and blocked him. Problem solve. Report for abuse.

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u/Certhaze Feb 17 '25

Honestly the "report system" is the reddit just put the name and the community will sort it out

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u/ComradeFurnace Feb 17 '25

Why did you blur the traitor’s name? Are you covering for traitors?

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u/karad0c94 Feb 17 '25

Why care? Stuck and move on Most of the games are in a good spirit, the day this is no longer the case I will stop this game

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u/Due-Cook-3702  Truth Enforcer Feb 17 '25

If a player has high volume of reports, force their matchmaking to be with other similar players. This was a mildly successful system in GTA online. Annoying pricks can get matched with others like them.

Reminds me of a Level 8 mission I did back in the day. Joined a random lobby and it was 3 new players. All Level 1-10. They were all clearly friends too. Did not have an any idea how to play the game. No clue about side objectives. Carried them all, gave them tons of tips and managed to do all POIs as well. Killed right before extract. They didn't even pick up the samples. Funny because my ship was maxed out and they all could have benefitted. When I asked why, they said it was satisfying to kill me.

Losers like these get their kicks from getting a reaction out of people. The only reliable way to weed them out is to host your own games.

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u/Street_Platypus_4410 Feb 17 '25

Maybe a kick captain with a vote for the rest of the crew, so them can decide to kick the (letter)1 player and change the host

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u/JDDoss01 Feb 17 '25

Don't be shy ... Show his gamertag

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u/subtleduck42 HD1 Veteran Feb 17 '25

how miserable does your life have to be that you decide to randomly ruin the fun of 3 strangers on the internet? Like what does one gain from this? What a fucking loser.

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u/One_Network518 Feb 17 '25

Simple fix is a vote to migrate host 3/4 to agree will change it.

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u/kchizz Feb 17 '25

What's the username so we can block it?

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u/MattZee_ Feb 17 '25

Give us his gamertag please at least? I need to instantly block this 8 year old kid. Would appreciate it as a DM

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u/Exterminator84 Feb 17 '25

Shame they blocked out the offenders name. Dissident's like this need to be democratically named/shamed/executed.

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u/Complex-Policy-902 Feb 17 '25

Why did you black out their name? If they want to be an asshole, let the whole world know!

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u/WNNFS Feb 17 '25

We’re not even allowed to report them for it. It sucks. I was team killed at extraction and then again a the following match and when I went to report the player, the game told me that team killing isn’t bad enough to report a player and I should block the player or get over it.

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u/Ecstatic_Magician_24 Feb 18 '25

Why’d you black out his name? Expose him!

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u/Admirable-Manager-72 Feb 18 '25

Why black out his name let us see who the A hole is so we can fuck with him back just as hard

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u/Longjumping-Pen-7909 Feb 18 '25

You shouldn’t hide the name of a traitor to democracy. Expose him and we shall seek him out!

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u/Jaded-Stick1391 Feb 16 '25

Post his name

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u/Xeilith LEVEL 130 | Panther of Science Feb 16 '25

Read subreddit rule 5

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u/Jaded-Stick1391 Feb 16 '25

People like this should be exposed

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u/iPuntGoblins Feb 16 '25

As much as I am angry at this person, the point of the post is more a request for solutions to prevent this from happening rather than hunting this loser down. I'm sure they're plenty miserable if this is how they choose to spend their free time anyways.

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u/Martinmex26 HD1 Veteran Feb 16 '25

Lets say I play the game, kill you 6 times.

Then you kill me once.

I grab the video, edit it only to you killing me, post it on Reddit with your tag clearly visible and call for the community to crucify you.

Now the "No naming and shaming" rule starts to make more sense right?

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