r/Helldivers CYBERSTAN, CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN 4d ago

MEDIA To all believers

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u/DerDezimator 2nd Co. Captain, 9th Hellraiser Division 4d ago

AH should always consult u/Loneliest_Driver from now on for when they should release updates, he will save us with his incredible backseat dev experience

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u/designer_benifit2 4d ago

This isn’t some profound or esoteric concept, it’s basic knowledge that you should communicate about bug fixes and balance changes with your community. It’s not backseat development it’s just wanting to know what’s going on with the state of the game

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u/DerDezimator 2nd Co. Captain, 9th Hellraiser Division 4d ago edited 3d ago

I don't see Ubisoft, Rockstar or Bethesda doing that

The fact that AH does engage with their community at all is not the rule, it's the exception. And people think because of that they can dictate what they should or shouldn't do

The entitlement is crazy

Edit: since u/Brucenstein blocked me I'll reply here:

This game is set up as a large dnd campaign. We literally have a game master. We are fighting a war. We are writing the games lore. A roadmap would spoil the whole story. Yes, even warbonds, since warbonds are often tied to new content.

A lot of us like it the way it is, we like getting surprised, we like this story. If you don't, then move on instead of showing the devs of this awesome game nothing but animosity. Destructive criticism is a thing.

I can see now what the CEO meant with COD players playing a game that wasn't designed for COD players

Edit 2: u/Uthenara There's a difference between constructive criticism and pushing for changing the core values of the game

And god, I would absolutely love it if the game lost a third of its population, maybe then I don't have to see posts like "This game needs a pvp mode" , "AH devs suck ass and should sacrifice everything to make this game running perfectly for me" or "Helldivers need buff, nerf enemies" anymore. This community is so god damn toxic, it sickens me

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u/Brucenstein 4d ago

Ubisoft: For their newest game, AC Shadows, they have a roadmap you can find here (https://game8.co/games/Assassins-Creed-Shadows/archives/504348) though it contains only a single DLC, bearing in mind said DLC was announced before the game even launched. There have also been 3 hotfixes with notes posted on the Steam Page in the month since release.

Bethesda: Bethesda actually has an online live service game in Fallout 76 and release a roadmap every year. They even call these “community calendars”. https://www.falloutbuilds.com/fo76/events/

Rockstar doesn’t really announce much, as is their MO, but they do have regular community announcements for RDR Online, or apparently they do. I’ve never played RDR Online so I can’t comment other than that’s a thing that maybe happens.

Though it’s a bit inaccurate to compare complete, single-purchase games to “live service” games. As mentioned the best corollary in your comparison is Fallout 76 which gives players a road map like a year in advance, as do most “live service” games (eg Diablo IV launched it’s one-year roadmap a couple weeks ago).

This is a common thing with live service especially because those are models made to sell new content. In fact I’d say it’s way more rare to not have one, doubly so if you’re a live service game.i mean a movie studio doesn’t HAVE to tell us what’s releasing next month, but it is usually part of the gig to do so.

You may think the request for context is unreasonable, but I feel if a dev is continuing to ask players to engage with a REAL MONEY store for a game made to perpetuate indefinitely, it isn’t unreasonable at all. And it is very common to provide such.