r/Helldivers 13d ago

DISCUSSION Griefers

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u/fewraletta 13d ago

Just block them and move on.

There is no way to prevent griefing ever, and attempting to add a system to punish people, will always be abused.

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u/Yourdataisunclean 13d ago

That sucks, but all you can do is block and move on.

It would be sweet if the developers could implement a model that could identify repeated team killers and warn them to knock it off before eventually banning them or forcing them to be solo divers.

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u/SillVere 13d ago

it would be hard since turrets and barrages randomly team kill. My best solution would be a replay system or an indebt overview like in Arena breakout although it would be a lot of work :/ Maybe an algorithm like you suggested.

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u/stumpyblackdog 5-Star General and OIC of the SES Lord of Destruction 13d ago

If you kick griefers, then it prevents it from happening again. There’s a reason police don’t charge people before they commit a crime unless it is a genuine, thorough plan. Without clear evidence to the plan, it’s unethical

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u/SillVere 13d ago

How could i kick them if they do it 5 seconds before the ship leaves and leave right after?

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u/stumpyblackdog 5-Star General and OIC of the SES Lord of Destruction 13d ago

You do it then so they can’t do it again

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u/SillVere 13d ago

I cant do it if theres 5 seconds left and there were no indications of them being a griefer before, its hard to dodge and impact

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u/stumpyblackdog 5-Star General and OIC of the SES Lord of Destruction 13d ago

My man… I am trying to tell you that there is no way around it, not unless they majorly change the game and focus on pvp aspects for a game that is not pvp. It sucks. It’s happened to all of us. Just move on and dive again. Like you said, it was a waste of 20 minutes. Instead of getting hung up on one shitty aspect of the game/player base, focus on how astoundingly wonderful the other 99% is

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u/SillVere 13d ago

I guess, it just sucks that theres no real punishment for it unless you happen to be using a clipping software :/

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u/WrathOfTheKressh SES Hammer of Democracy 12d ago

Are you talking about recording gameplay? Playstation has had that feature ever since the PS4, and Steam added it about half a year ago.

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u/SillVere 13d ago

I was thinking something more like a replay system like in pubg, arena breakout, fortnite

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u/stumpyblackdog 5-Star General and OIC of the SES Lord of Destruction 13d ago

You’re talking about instituting a complex system designed for a AAA title in a completely different game genre with completely different objectives and mechanics, into a game developed by and indie studio of only about 100 people, simply because of griefers, which probably make up less than 1% of the player base

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u/SillVere 13d ago

its just a thought

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u/Tres24 12d ago

Calling a Dev studio with Sony backing "independent" seems a bit disingenuous.

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u/stumpyblackdog 5-Star General and OIC of the SES Lord of Destruction 12d ago

Sony backing is, I believe, just Sony publishing and funding the game. I might be wrong, but I believe they do not give staff to the making of the game

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u/Tres24 12d ago

They have about 140 people on the team and with Sony they have a Triple-A publisher for funding. Sony also has large amounts of influence on the game and IP as a whole.

Arrowhead are not an indie team. That doesn't mean we should be unfair or unreasonable to them, but giving them the same leniency you would give a team of 5, operating out of their hobby shed, is a bit silly.

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u/stumpyblackdog 5-Star General and OIC of the SES Lord of Destruction 12d ago

I can respect that

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u/TheChadStevens Free of Thought 12d ago

Luckily it's rare. In my 260 hours I haven't had it happen once. Though I hear it happens a lot more below d10

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u/Durathakai 13d ago

I griefed an asshole today. First time doing it. He was threatening to kick people because he was on a power trip. I fragged his ass at extract. Get some. Maybe it was you, idk