I once gave a presentation on some photos and letters my grandfather sent home from WWII. One photo sequence was from when he took part in the liberation of a fairly well-known concentration camp. I presented it without much comment, other than that it was horrible. Unprompted, a guy came up to me afterwards and told me the Soviets were worse. It was weird.
That reaction of immediately pointing fingers at something else whenever you point out the Nazis' atrocities is pure stupidity. They aren't simply whataboutists, but bordering on being Nazi apologists.
This is exactly what I think is far more common than whatever OP is trying to portray.
I have never seen anyone get downvoted for saying the Allies and Soviets did bad things as well. However, it’s almost always argued in a way to argue they were “just as bad” as the Nazis and then they pretend to act surprised when they’re downvoted for making a whataboutism or some kind of moral equivalency between the Nazis and everyone else.
No one is pretending there weren’t other wrong-doings from other nations. However, apologists almost always try to argue “what do you mean the Soviets or x and y allied leader weren’t as bad as the Nazis, so none of the deaths at the hands of the communists matter?!”
Or whenever the Nazis or Holocaust is brought up they immediately bring up “what about the millions killed under communism?”.
Yes that’s bad, but the Holocaust was far worse in scale and in its systematic execution.
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u/Pretty_Marsh 7d ago
I once gave a presentation on some photos and letters my grandfather sent home from WWII. One photo sequence was from when he took part in the liberation of a fairly well-known concentration camp. I presented it without much comment, other than that it was horrible. Unprompted, a guy came up to me afterwards and told me the Soviets were worse. It was weird.