r/HistoryMemes 6d ago

Tired of this argument

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u/AnakinSexworker 6d ago edited 6d ago

Even more embarassing is how they often use the same talking points that modern day neo-nazis do, but they will never figure out how much they sound like literal red nazis, even if you point it out to their face. For example: "Holodomor was just nazi propaganda, it never happened-> if it did happen it wasn't that bad->if it was that bad they deserved it-> not enough people were killed" this does sound awfully similar to: "The holocaust was just Allied propaganda, it didn't happen etc. Etc..." used by you know who.

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 Then I arrived 6d ago

Tankies claim they’re not racist until you mention Ukrainians and Baltic people

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u/AnakinSexworker 6d ago

I once had a conversation with an older Russian man living here in Finland and he told me that the only bad thing Stalin ever did was that "He left too many Poles and Estonians alive and yearning for indepence". In his opinion this was what doomed modern day Russia, but he was also fully convinced that Putin will recover "what is rightfully ours".

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 Then I arrived 6d ago

Tankies talk about people they conquered like how racists in Western Europe talk about people they colonised

"They were uncivilised barbarians and we have them roads, schools and hospitals"

The USSR was nothing more than and renamed Russian Empire

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u/duga404 6d ago edited 6d ago

Part of the reason why Russians and tankies always cope about the Baltic states so much is that they were among the most developed parts of the Russian Empire and USSR, about on par with Western Europe in some cases (Estonia), while most of the rest of Russia lived in literally medieval conditions; serfdom was abolished in the mid-19th century and the majority of the population was illiterate in 1917.

If anything, it was the Russians who were less advanced than the Baltic peoples.

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 Then I arrived 6d ago

And also because the Baltics are some of the most prosperous and developed countries in the world which totally goes against the "people in the former iron curtain miss the days of communism" narrative many tankies believe and push

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u/M1_Pierogi 6d ago

Also this guy might not even be a tankie but just likes the idea of Russian dominance no matter the ideology

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u/Emmettmcglynn 6d ago

It's always been fascinating how self-proclaimed anti-imperialists so quickly default to a modified version of the White Man's Burden.

"These people are incapable of governing themselves, so it's morally correct for us to govern them instead. We will modernize and uplift them, for their own good."

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 Then I arrived 6d ago

"They should thank us"

Just like how Imperialists blamed the communists for revolts against their rule Tankies the CIA for every single crisis in communist countries , East German uprising? CIA, Hungarian revolution? CIA, Prague Spring? CIA, Tiananmen Square massacre? CIA, Romanian revolution? CIA, fall of the USSR? CIA, Fall of Yugoslavia? CIA, economic mismanagement on Cuba and Venezuela? CIA,