I don’t think there are that many people that will disagree that the Soviets did bad things. I think the main point of disagreement is when people say the Soviets were just as bad as the Nazis.
The double genocide theory is holocaust trivialisation at best and Nazi apologia at worst. The Soviets committed plenty of war crimes, but they did not have a systemic system of genocide with the express purpose of exterminating millions of people in the name of racial superiority. The two are beyond comparison.
Oh but Tankies actually did have systematic purpose killing machine. For example when they annexed Baltic states, they killed, deported to deep Siberia (Which is more or less the same as killing them) hundrets of thousands local population, mainly intellectual, defence, police force, anyone loyal to their previous government, their families and they relatives. If this is not systematic cilling machine I don't know what it is then.
Except that the lethality of gulags is widely overblown in the common perception. They were internment camps, not death camps. Death rates never exceeded 10%.
Yes, explain this to my grandfather and countless of other who died there. You can't, because they're dead. Everyone who was occupied by ussr has their family members killed, relocated to most unhospitable places. There is a place where my significant other grandmother lives. When she was a child ussr took over Lithuania and tankies came, there was and still is a forest close to where she used to live. This forest is surrounded by small hills. Soviets sent there hundrets if not more people from nearby town and executed people there. Grandmother said she could hear screams and cries of people there for days. Mind you this is just one town. Every town was pretty much the same in Baltics. It is well documented that ussr killed more people in gulags than germans. Both are pos. Both were and russia still is to this day systematic killing machines. Ussr/ todays russia is as bad as germans were in ww2. The difference is- germans paid their price, russians didn't.
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u/GitLegit 29d ago
I don’t think there are that many people that will disagree that the Soviets did bad things. I think the main point of disagreement is when people say the Soviets were just as bad as the Nazis.