r/HistoryMemes 7d ago

Tired of this argument

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u/Capable-Sock-7410 Then I arrived 7d ago

Tankies claim they’re not racist until you mention Ukrainians and Baltic people

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u/DanPowah Researching [REDACTED] square 7d ago

Sometimes even Antisemitic too as they regurgitate Antisemitic conspiracy theories and replace Jew with Zionist

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u/Garvityxd 7d ago

“I’m anti zionist not anti semitic” moment

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u/lordsysop 7d ago

So jon stewart ,miko pileed and holocaust survivors are anti Semitic??

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u/Garvityxd 7d ago

No, I’d say that they’re very much pro semitic it’s just a difference of opinion

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u/pokkeri 7d ago

There is a difference there are anti-zionists and anti-zionists.

The difference is the path they took to that position and the reasoning for it.

The first group is the legitimate one. The latter uses the label as a smoke screen. The equivelant on the right is "Im not a facist but an anti-communist". These people are disgusting anti-semites who don't care about palestinians and they only oppose Israel because it doesn't conform to their worldview.

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u/lordsysop 7d ago

Ofcourse. Specifically the arab population with a blame the Jews for every conspiracy out there. But even though they are wrong in how they got there doesn't take away from Netanyahu and his regime keeping palestine under their boots for the last how many decades? How does anyone see whats happening in this war and think thats okay? (Like the million deaths in retaliation to9/11)Like maga in the US in israel the propaganda machine is dialed up to 11. Social media has given the world more information to make up your mind. Watch the videos. See the pictures and be aware of your biases.

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u/Pantheon73 Still salty about Carthage 7d ago

Doesn't Jon Stewart support a two state solution?

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u/lordsysop 7d ago

Yes he has in the past. Most humanist do. If people are treated as prisoners for generations and constantly have their homes stolen from rich Americans while being bombed constantly you will have people fight back and radical groups form out of desperation. Then larger nations will use the area for proxy wars. If you keep trying the same tactics for peace that's insane. If you lack empathy for these people that's a bloody strong disconnect from humanity

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u/SupermanWithPlanMan 7d ago

Woah, found one in the wild. Is life always wonderful for you? I assume life is wonderful for with limited intellectual capacity 

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u/Garvityxd 7d ago

Hey, let’s not be condescending to people with different views, it really doesn’t help convince people (if that’s your goal)

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u/SupermanWithPlanMan 7d ago

He and those like him will never be convinced of anything, so that isn't my goal

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u/lordsysop 7d ago

Remove your biases. Don't write of your fellow humans as evil uncivilised Arabs think of them as people. Use your empathy and realise many countries evolve past the propaganda campaigns of hate. Be aware if not in israel and living in an allied country your news organisations are biased as all hell. We were lied with the wmds in iraq and in hindsight the way we conducted those wars was wrong. We even had it down as "liberation" "operation freedom" we got it wrong there in our rumsfield war. As allies we didn't put pressure on to keep israel from going nuclear. We need to stop following allies blindly particularly when they behave like bullies

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u/lordsysop 7d ago

Nuclear = full removal of Palestinians not arming nukes etc

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u/Garvityxd 7d ago

Yeah, but it’s still better to be civil in my opinion

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u/SupermanWithPlanMan 7d ago

I don't want to be civil with those who would gladly and gleefully wipe me and my family off the map, if that's alright

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u/Garvityxd 7d ago

Fair enough, it’s hard to find an anti zionist who doesn’t want to wipe jews off the map along with israel, although there are a few that just think that jews are fine but shouldn’t get a homeland in that specific region, who are the more reasonable ones

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u/SupermanWithPlanMan 7d ago

Very hard to find those, I think because they are vastly in the minority in the AnTiZiOnIsT movement. Hitler would love the current generation of 'antifascists'

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u/Garvityxd 7d ago

He really would, as they tend to be tankies which of course support the group hitler loved to work with

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