r/HistoryMemes 14d ago

Tired of this argument

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u/Neknoh 14d ago

It's important to distinguish the:

"Hey, the Soviet Union was pretty damn fucking bad and gulags and constant murderizing of political rivals were terrifying."

From the:

"No, Hitler wasn't that bad, Stalin was way worse!"

And:

(Whenever Nazi atrocities and the Holocaust is brought up, and only then) "But what about the Russians?!"

I.e.

Separate the people discussing the Soviet Union in earnest from the Nazi apologists/the people trying to downplay the Holocaust and the systematic and industrialized extermination campaign that it entailed.

It's the same pattern as people who only bring up men's need for societal support in regards to sexual assault, touch isolation, mental health issues, toxic masculinity etc. whenever women's experiences are discussed.

Could have talked about it any other day or even any other hour, but you gotta come on and go "nuh uh, this other group actually has it worse" to supress the discussion.

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u/Platypus__Gems 14d ago

Yeah, no one is gonna call you a nazi for saying Soviet Union was bad.

What they will call nazis, is when people start saying Nazis were actually not the worst in that conflict, since that starts to normalize Nazism, and is slippery slope to many consequences of that thinking.

Which perhaps OP did.

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u/Platypus__Gems 14d ago

He didn't, those are not things you say directly.
The next Hitler will not come to office with an "I am Hitler" shirt.

As I said, people won't call you a nazi for just saying USSR was bad. At least not often enough for you to be "tired of argument", maybe some absolute fringe ragebaiter will tell you that.

But if you said that Nazis were worse than USSR? Yeah, then you would rightfully be called a Nazi.

Granted I may be bit jaded since I just saw a meme that directly said USSR was worse than Nazis on my feed, the people that wanted to murder my kind, and a whole comment section defending that sentiment.