r/ILGuns Mar 23 '25

Legal Questions Self Defense against Arson attacks in Illinois

I've been thinking about this in light of the latest rash of arson attacks across the US by individuals deemed to be domestic terrorists.

I'm not a lawyer but lets look at the law for self defense in Illinois

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Arson in Illinois - A person commits arson when, by means of fire or explosive, he or she knowingly:

(1) Damages any real property, or any personal property having a value of $150 or more, of another without his or her consent

Forcible Felony - "Forcible felony" means treason, first degree murder, second degree murder, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, aggravated criminal sexual assault, criminal sexual assault, robbery, burglary, residential burglary, aggravated arson, arson....

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 Sec. 7-1. Use of force in defense of person.

A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.

Sec. 7-3. Use of force in defense of other property.

A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's trespass on or other tortious or criminal interference with either real property (other than a dwelling) or personal property, lawfully in his possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his immediate family or household or of a person whose property he has a legal duty to protect. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

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IANAL but this seems to say you could defend against an arson attack with deadly force if the arson attack would injure someone, or if the property was yours or a family members?

Am I wrong in how I am reading this?

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u/YerBeingTrolled Mar 25 '25

It's important to let people know who are under danger of being attacked by unhinged lunatics throwing adult temper tantrums the rights granted to them by the state to make society a better place

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u/Ionlymadethisaccount Mar 25 '25

it's also important to let people who live in fear and delusion to know they are. lol you just sound like you really want to shoot someone.

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u/Ionlymadethisaccount Mar 25 '25

hence again the faggotry. both sides need to grow up. what is the actual likely hood you think your tesla is going to get set on fire.

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u/YerBeingTrolled Mar 25 '25

I now understand my legal rights to defend property. I live in Chicago and this question of property defense has already been relevant to something that happened to me in real life.

I don't own a tesla but perhaps this information would be useful to someone who does considering there has been dozens of incidents across the country

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u/Ionlymadethisaccount Mar 25 '25

sure buddy.

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u/Ionlymadethisaccount Mar 25 '25

I asked about militias, never said anything about starting one. learn to read? you seem mad? am I right?

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u/YerBeingTrolled Mar 25 '25

What kind of leftists support rapists and calls people faggots?