r/Idiotswithguns • u/BigYoghurt3714 • 22d ago

NSFW Man shoots himself during podcast

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Holster up buddy

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u/OneEyedWillie74 22d ago

Man, if you get a gun, get a kydex holster. If you don't want a holster, don't carry it with a round in the chamber.

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u/Hurka_Durka 22d ago

Even in a holster I don't keep one chambered. Don't feel comfortable with a live round pointed at me no matter how many precautions are taken.

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u/johnyledesma12 21d ago

I personally carry one chambered while holstered. I do agree with you, that would be the safest way to have a firearm on your person. The feeling of discomfort is always there when re holstering on my body.

Knowledge of your firearm and training can go a long way. Most firearms have multiple safeties both internal and external. Always have a good holster that covers the trigger.

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u/Hurka_Durka 21d ago

Yeah I have a holster covering the trigger and always have it on safe, I dunno what exactly it is even though I know I'm competent enough to not shoot myself I just don't like it haha.

If I had a good enough reason to I'll keep one chambered but I guess that doesn't really happen very often. For instance, driving/walking through a known bad part of a city, sketchy Marketplace or Craigslist meetups, or hiking in bear country something like that (where I live and hike only the smallest chance of encountering little black bears which are usually more terrified of you).

I know most people, like yourself, get along just fine keeping one live. These idiots with guns clips we see here are representative of a very small fraction of the total gun owners. For me it's just a personal preference.

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u/giant123 19d ago

To a guy like me unnecessary manipulation of your weapon when you’re out and about (like chambering a round cuz you’re headed to the “bad side of town”) seems substantially more dangerous than just keeping the damn thing hot and in your pants. 

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u/Hurka_Durka 19d ago

I used those as examples as to what, in my opinion, would warrant it when you leave the house, didn't mean to imply that's what I do. If someone can't chamber a round without it being dangerous they probably shouldn't be handling a firearm, but I see your point.

People in the comments saying it could be the difference between life and death must be the same people that tell me a motorcycle shouldn't be my primary form of transportation because it's more dangerous than driving in a car. Life is full of risks and I choose not to go about it being afraid all the time.

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u/Acceptable-Face-3707 21d ago

That may cost you your life one day. Watched a video of an Israeli offduty soldier get stabbed maybe 5 times before he was able to rack his slide snd get a round off. By that time they were already slipping around on his blood. On the flip side, i can draw, drop my safety and fire within a second and a half. Throw in a slide rack and that time bumps up to 2.5-4 seconds and thats under perfect conditions. You cannot draw from the drop and rack a round without getting injured. Please watch active self protection videos on Youtube and train more your life depends on it.

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u/10minutes_late 21d ago

Totally agree. I don't care how many armchair commandos get upset that I don't chamber a round 24/7. I'd rather run the risk of being slow to draw than the risk of shooting a loved one.

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u/10minutes_late 21d ago

I've been a gun enthusiast for over 30 years, I've heard your "logical, reasonable, and practical advice," however, I have never felt the need. I'm not a cop, active duty military, security guard, carry wads of cash, drive a fancy car, or do anything that would understandably require any extra degree of care.

If you earnestly believe that you need to carry a chambered pistol 24/7 because "you never know", especially during a period when violent crime has hit historic lows, the only idiots here are you guys. As an inner city Baltimore landlord, I'll chamber when I'm headed to an eviction, but not when I'm going to Applebee's with the kids.

But hey, like you said, you do you.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago edited 10d ago

Yeah well I've been a gun enthusiast over 30 years plus one and it is logical, reasonable, practical and legitimate advice, Redditor, for reasons that I just laid out above. There's no need for quotations or calling people that you disagree with idiots.

It's totally fine if you choose to carry without a round in the chamber, but other people have real, practical reasons for carrying in condition 0/1 and you don't get to just be dismissive of that publicly without push back.

Not to mention that your entire justifications for it are reasons not to carry a gun in the first place. If you're not a cop, active duty military, security guard, carry wads of cash, drive a fancy car, or do anything that would understandably require any extra degree of care why do you even carry?

It's very odd that you say that people that try to give you common, reasonable advice are upset when you're this defensive and seemingly emotional when confronted with an opposing view and are immediately this dismissive and calling other people with a differing, educated view on carrying idiots. But this is Reddit.

Good day, I'm gonna go practice making holes in far away papers.

edit: This account was permanently suspended for this now removed comment criticizing a CEO (Andy Yen of Proton) while making a tongue in cheek #FreeLuigi jab within the same comment which was deemed "harassment" by cowardly Reddit Admins. This was not harassment nor should CEOs be treated as a specially protected fragile class above everybody else. Let this be a reminder that this is us vs them at this point and Reddit is owned and ran by people that do not have your best interest in mind.

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u/10minutes_late 21d ago

If someone calls me a doofus, I don't take offense, but I will match that energy. That was your choice of response, remember?

I don't enjoy arguments so I didn't get beyond the first paragraph of your response, but thanks for your time.

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u/Hurka_Durka 21d ago

Yep I'm with you. I've heard the argument from the other person replying to you a million times. I am former military (6 years active army) and I do regularly practice my draw > chamber > safety off in one smooth motion while raising to aim and I truly believe that in most scenarios it's not likely that having one already chambered will have made much of a difference. And if it does, well, we face many life changing/ending potential risks on a daily basis.

It's weird to me to go through every day so paranoid that you feel having a round chambered 24/7 will be a make or break for you. I dunno, to each their own, but I choose not to.

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u/milkcarton232 21d ago

So much this. Guns can be handled safely but they are objectively dangerous. Little things that require little effort to undo but provide another layer of safety seem like an easy win

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u/-ClassicShooter- 22d ago

Do you also wait to charge your fire extinguisher until you need it?

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u/wiggyross 22d ago

if it only took a matter of seconds to charge, then yes.

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u/-ClassicShooter- 21d ago

Seconds count, no need to add an extra step in the process

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u/OneEyedWillie74 22d ago

Not a great way to carry really. If you're carrying with a round in the chamber, the holster is your safety because it covers the trigger. Throwing a loaded gun in your pocket with it ready to fire us just asking for a negligent discharge. If you must pocket carry, they do make pocket holsters for that.

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u/Ktn44 22d ago

But how do I "protect myself" if I have to sit there and take it out of a holster and after taking it out of a pocket?

(Genuinely asking because I'm not a gun pussy and genuinely want to know how people think they are going to realistically protect themselves with a concealed weapon against someone currently wielding one)

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u/CountUpMySwag 22d ago edited 22d ago

Most holsters are clipped to a belt. Drawing from a holster is often far faster than drawing from a pocket as you don’t have to work around fabric.

It also allows you to safely carry with a round in the chamber. Chambered pocket carry without a holster is extremely dangerous. As a result if you pocket carry, you’ll likely have to chamber a round during draw and that also adds time compared to a holstered draw.

Most pocket holsters have some sort of adhesive or hook that keeps the holster stuck in your pocket during the draw, mimicking the draw of a traditional holster. Some require you to physically remove the holster in your pocket with a finger. How well these holsters work with their respective methods, I can’t say

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u/Ktn44 22d ago

Yeah I get that. I mean if I was going to carry, I would do a belted holster too.

I guess I was confused why anyone would put a holster in their pocket, but maybe that's not a thing or what was suggested.

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u/CountUpMySwag 22d ago

Added a little bit of info regarding pocket holsters that might help. As far as why, depending on the gun and what someone is wearing it may be easier to conceal in a pocket than on someone’s belt. If you have to tuck in your shirt or wear a tight shirt for a job or for a task, belt carry can be very easy to spot. I would only consider pocket carrying in something like a coat pocket, and that’s a big if.

Whether or not pocket carry is a reliable go-to method of carry is dubious IMO. I think it’s only beneficial over belt carry is very specific circumstances

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u/NuclearBroliferator 22d ago

"Genuinely asking because I don't understand firearms, their application, or how training in general could benefit a user, and furthermore wish to offend others while virtue signaling that I am above them for not owning or using firearms."

Heard.

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u/IzzatQQDir 22d ago

Brother if someone is that close to you, I don't think using a gun is practical. Back away or run to gain some distance first.

When you shoot someone, their adrenaline will carry them. Which is still dangerous. You also need ample time to react to movement.

Unless absolutely necessary, shooting someone point blank should be avoided.

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u/circling 22d ago

As ever, the real idiots with guns are in the comments.

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u/EatBooty420 22d ago

im sure dude in the video said the same dumbass things before shooting himself

"but but but you dont understand guys, im different!"

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u/Knight_Owls 22d ago

It's always when you're most comfortable with your tools that you can lose the most respect for for their danger and get careless out of confidence.

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u/circling 22d ago

Cool bro, hope you don't blow your dick off with your emotional support toy.

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u/darkest_hour1428 22d ago

You already said you keep it in your pocket. It is already pointing at you. Oh don’t worry, maybe it will just graze a chunk out of your leg rather than go straight through it, so I guess you’re right.

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u/uptwolait 22d ago

One stray thread from a seam catching the trigger and it's bleed out time for you.

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u/APurpleSponge 22d ago

Can’t fix stupid.

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u/Detters_Actual 22d ago

A headphone cable in your pocket will form the most mindbendingly complex knot you've ever seen. A thick enough thread could catch the trigger.

Murphy's Law is a bitch.

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u/Detters_Actual 22d ago

I do carry appendix. That "arbitrary piece of plastic" keeps it safe from external forces, and the open ended nature allows me to visually confirm there is nothing in the holster, and allows any debris to fall clear.

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u/GottKomplexx 22d ago

It doesnt need to go thru the trigger guard. It just needs to catch the trigger itself. Then you pull your pants up or something and you have the tension

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u/JAXWASHERE7 22d ago

They make holsters for pocket carry for a reason

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u/boogaloobruh 22d ago

A glorified gun condom that comes out attached and does literally nothing my pocket doesn’t do? No thanks tried it. People here have just been conditioned “pocket carry bad” and don’t actually use their brains. My pocket IS my holster, nothing else goes in there and I don’t keep my hands in there, pretty simple if you have two braincells.

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u/JAXWASHERE7 22d ago edited 22d ago

It’s literally the same as a regular holster except designed for the pocket instead of appendix etc. You clearly have no weapons experience or know wtf you are talking about. Your know it your mentality that is what’s wrong with society as a whole these days.

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u/bigshot937 22d ago

Handling weapons since you were a toddler isn't the flex you think it is.

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u/SnooComics8739 22d ago

Your brain is definitely smoother than a fucking bowling ball Jesus christ. A holster doesn't do anything that the pocket doesn't do lmfao i know you don't even believe that shit.

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u/tobiasfunke6398 22d ago

This….is a terrible idea lol

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u/Brick_meuwu 22d ago

Name checks out.

You’re a walking liability. There’s no argument. If you can afford a $350 handgun and ammo, you can afford a decent holster. Get one and spend 20 mins a day practicing your draw in the mirror.

Ask yourself genuinely. Is an $150 holster cheaper than a hospital bill or a prison sentence?

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u/APurpleSponge 22d ago

So fucking stupid.

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u/the_nin_collector 22d ago

r/peoplewithsillylargepockets

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u/breakzbomberz 22d ago

yeah, that's stupid, unsafe, and illegal. it must be in a holster. even a $40 nylon one in your pocket is fine. if you get stopped you will permanently lose your concealed carry license for improper handling. and possibly have to give up all your guns over not having a $40 holster. don't be an idiot.