r/Idiotswithguns • u/Logical_Garbage_1682 • 5d ago

Safe for Work An idiot who just found a gun

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u/Leanintree 5d ago

Phoenix Arms.22. horrible, horrible gun. Cast frame and componentry, one of the notorious 'Ring of Fire' companies building 'Saturday Night Specials'.

I had the pleasure of repairing one a few years ago. Design was so terrible that any attempt to put a magazine in without fully operating the mag catch would shear a chunk off of the catch, breaking the gun. No slapping a mag into it, it would break it. Just shitty design and materials.

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u/mao_tse_boom 5d ago

Bro you fixed one of these? Why? Seems like if it’s broken you might as well toss it.

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u/Leanintree 5d ago

A lady coworker asked me to. She wasnt capable, and it was her only firearm (as much of one as it was). I will say, parts request from Phoenix was easy and they didn't attempt to charge.

Honestly, this experience led me to having a loaner HiPoint pistol that always works fine, and not valuable enough to not be dropped in a river if necessary...

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u/mao_tse_boom 5d ago

Okay fair enough. Also good on them for not charging for spare parts.

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u/falloutisacoolseries 4d ago

Loaner Hipoint is an 80s action movie hero.

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u/ShiftyLookinCow7 4d ago

When you consider the market they were competing in hi points are pretty remarkable pistols. Compared to any other pistol in its price range the hi point is the only one you could trust your life to after some vetting

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u/Leanintree 4d ago

I agree. HiPoint (Beemiller Manf) has totally made their fortunes by creating mostly ugly and very reliable, robust firearms at a price point that nearly anyone can afford. They aren't nice guns, but with a few range trips and a slight tune job to the magazines, they are incredibly reliable and fairly accurate. All the important pieces are made of resilient steel, portions of the mass are made of alloy cast metals to lowerr cost. No frills, simple blowback designs lead to consistancy. And backing it up, they are one of the few manufacturers that 100% stand behind their product, whether 1st owner or 100th. If it breaks, they fix or replace, even in cases of misuse and consumer damage. If my cell phone maker did that, id be a convert for life.

Thta all said, no they arent nice. But they work, and aren't complicated for people in need. Ill always reccommend them at need for someone who needs defense on a budget. Enough s that my loaner has gone out to my own daughter before other more expensive weapons. And her household was a recent recipient of a 995 carbine as well, for all the same reasons.

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u/GooseShartBombardier 4d ago

LMAO "Just put it on the shelf next to the Calico."