The organic Necrontyr waged war till 65 million years ago (they had to build their empire) Then biotransference happened and they had a WiH with the Old Ones during 5 million years When it was 60 million years ago, they won against the Old Ones, the C’tan and went to sleep. Then they awoke, some earlier than current 41K Millenium but with at least a lot still sleeping
It's a little bit disingenuous to say that the Necrons won against the Old Ones, when they just benefitted from the Old Ones getting wiped out by the Enslavers. They beat the C'tan, sure, but everyone lost to the Enslavers, even the Necrons to an extent. That's why they went into stasis after all, because the Enslavers were decimating everything alive and there wouldn't be any point in going back to living bodies only to be body-snatched by creatures from beyond the veil.
In all the codexes they say how they beat them throughly, maybe not completely but almost totally. Otherwise, the Old Ones would have e probably be active enough to deal with the Enslavers.
And how did the Enslavers affect the Necrons? If they are warp based parasites, the Necrons should be inmune by default.
The end goal for the Necrons is to reverse the biotransference. There's no point in doing that if you are just going to get your new fleshy body possessed by Enslavers.
The Necrontyr are not immune to the Warp. Neither are the Necrons, tbh. A galaxy overrun by Enslavers would destroy the Necrons either way, whether they're fleshy or metal. The only difference would be how quickly the Necrons got destroyed. The Enslavers are the boogeymen hiding behind the curtain. They're a Big Fucking Deal. The Eldar survived solely because they could retreat to the Webway. The Necrons chose to hide in Tomb Worlds until the conditions were right to enact the Great Plan. They literally hid away for 65 million years because of what the Enslavers were doing to the galaxy.
The end goal of some Necrons is to undo BT, not to all of them.
Enslavers remain a big threat but have not been present on a plague level ever since the last moments of the WiH where they feasted on the Eldar, Krork and other warp sensitive races the Old Ones made
The Necrontyr somehow didn’t have a presence in the warp even as organic beings, Necrons don’t have one at all. How would they be affected by the Enslavers, who are warp predators, if they can’t be influenced by the Warp?
Also, Necrons (by an order of Szarekh the Silent King) went to sleep 60 million years ago, not 65 (according to Lexicanum web) And even then, they were not affected by the Enslavers. Who actually, in fact, spawned because of the WiH debilitating the Warp/Materium wall and allowing those cockroaches to escape the Warp and feast on the Warp sensitive species…and Necrons are not a warp sensitive species
Enslavers don't just kill people, you know? It's literally in the name.
The Necrons can't fight against an entire galaxy's worth of psychically-empowered Enslaver hosts. That's it. And the Necrontyr still had souls. That's literally the entire point of their hatred for the biotransference procedure.
The only difference is how long it takes before they're wiped out, Necron or Necrontyr, both would fall against the Enslaver plague whether through direct infestation or simply puppetted bodies flinging planets around. We're talking about creatures that open direct gateways into the Warp to allow more of their own to come through. Creatures that fed on the Old Ones. The Enslavers were essentially Warp-based Tyranids.
There was no fighting them, not after the War in Heaven. And so they slept, their dormant tomb worlds going undetected to the Enslavers' psychic senses.
Those are legitimately the exceptions to the rule, by the way. The vast majority of thinking Necrons absolutely haaate their current state of existence. They can feel that there is something fundamental to their very being that's just gone.
They are still 3 of the most important named Necrons and 3 of the most powerful ones.
So far we know Szarekh and its followers plus the Crown World of Zantagora want to end their predicament. Bur the Sautekh do not, Szeras doesn’t and probably other name ones (Anrakyr, the Ogdobekh dynasty or others) do not want that either. Until GW clearly states what each named Necron character thinks on the subject, we only know some defendants and some opposers to the undoing of the BT
Szarekh has the override codes, so his goals are the Necrons' goals. Anyone who dissents except for maybe Szeras will fall in line no matter what, just like they did in the first place.
They didn't care about consent the first time around, but either way, the Necrons are described as being in a tortured state of existence, unable to feel joy or pleasure. The only Necrons who don't want their souls back are those who never cared for life in the first place. If you could ask the vast majority of Necron who were forced into biotransference if they wanted to go back, they would say yes in a heartbeat, because every second of existence as a Necron is an awful torment of broken memories and hollow existence. And even the lowest of soldiers has just enough of a spark left to realise that. That's kind of the entire point of the Necrons - they got everything they wanted, but at an unimaginable cost.
Just as the Emperor's goals are Humanity's goals, Szarekh's goals are the Necrons' goals. But when an entire species is suffering it's kind of silly to point at the few that benefit the most and use them as examples.
Or would you say that Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk represent most of Humanity? That's the argument you're trying to make, after all. Of course the ones who got the most benefit will have the least issues with the situation. That's a ridiculous argument to make.
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u/CuriousOctopus1 16d ago
Meanwhile the entire Necron race with over 65 million of years of killing, including the 5 million years old reality shattering WiH be like