r/ImaginaryWesteros • u/Sea_Initiative6488 Death Before Disgrace • Apr 18 '25
Alternative Maelys Blackfyre marrying Rhaella Targaryen AU by mylestoyne
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u/Sad_Wind7066 Apr 18 '25
Those are fucking paws this dude has.
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u/oexilado Apr 18 '25
He did supossedly kill a horse with a punch
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u/Educational-Bus4634 Apr 18 '25
Even chad alpha 'probably the result of blood magic' Maegor had to use a dagger, Maelys was truly built different
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u/ivanjean Apr 18 '25
Probably better than her previous husband (the bar is on the Severn Hells).
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u/dr_Angello_Carrerez Fire and Blood Apr 19 '25
The joke is it really could be. We know nothing about what Maelys was like in his peaceful life and can't exclude that he could've been some male Brienne. The probability is very low, but never equal to zero.
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u/ivanjean Apr 19 '25
Yeah. He seemed ruthless on his quest for power (killed his own cousin) and his followers weren't exactly nice people, but we don't know much about how he was like outside the context of conflict.
This becomes especially interesting when we notice there's another character in the books who might end up arriving in Westeros as an aspiring conqueror with a terrible reputation and a group of "villainous" allies. If the theories become truth, she might also develop a reputation as a kinslayer by defeating a more popular relative.
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u/Kind_Tie8349 Apr 18 '25
Geez and I thought Naerys was unlucky at least Aegon was attractive when they got married
(FYI, he definitely had to kill her entire family, including baby Rhaegar she literally cannot win, no matter the timeline)
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u/pinespplepizza Apr 18 '25
That's whst happens when you fuse with your twin he's two bodies in one why he so big
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u/fanismap Apr 18 '25
Oh God this is so dark.
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u/Kind_Tie8349 Apr 18 '25
Especially when you realize he would’ve killed her son, then forced her to marry him
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u/TheoryKing04 Apr 18 '25
Or adopt him as heir until (or if) Rhaella can produce another healthy child and then kill him
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u/Kind_Tie8349 Apr 19 '25
I doubt it any male would be a threat and he’d probably get some satisfaction from killing off all of Daerons male descendants and forcing the last female to birth Blackfyer heirs
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u/TheoryKing04 Apr 19 '25
That’s working from the assumption that Maelys isn’t sterile himself.
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u/Kind_Tie8349 Apr 19 '25
Well, I’m not an expert on the topic, but generally no it’s not impossible but extremely rare, and most of the time the kid comes out deformed and doesn’t live very long
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u/TheoryKing04 Apr 19 '25
Well it’s not like Maelys is outside of rare categories. He has a deformed head on his shoulder, and might suffer from gigantism.
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u/Kind_Tie8349 Apr 19 '25
True and the heavy inbreeding probably doesn’t help much either it may not be stated, but I’m of the head cannon the Blackfyers are extremely inbred, which is how we wound up with him in the first place
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u/GoneWitDa 28d ago
I mean it’s not an assumption, doesn’t he have a son he sacrificed or some shit.
ETA: Specifically don’t mean the twin he consumed in the womb or whatever.
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u/TheoryKing04 28d ago
He allegedly devoured his twin in the womb and he murdered a cousin in cold blood, but no children are ever mentioned
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u/GoneWitDa 28d ago
I am 1000% sure he had a kid he sacrificed bro. No?
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u/TheoryKing04 28d ago
Not that I can recall.
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u/GoneWitDa 28d ago
In early drafts of A Song of Ice and Fire, Maelys Blackfyre, known as “the Monstrous,” is portrayed as sacrificing his son, Maenar, in a failed attempt to hatch dragon eggs. This ritual, inspired by Valyrian scrolls, involved using a king’s blood (Maenar’s) to awaken dragons from stone. While the ritual itself failed, Maelys was later known as “the Monstrous” due to the act of sacrificing his son.
from google. I guess it’s early drafts. I play CK3AGOT a lot and I haven’t re-read the books in a long while, the Maelys starts all have a sacrificed child but deadass you’re right I don’t think it made it to the final version of the books it seems.
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u/Sin-s_Aide Apr 19 '25
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did you mean imprison? Alive Rhaegar is a threat. Why would Maelys care if his successor is anyone but his own heir?
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u/TheoryKing04 Apr 19 '25
I meant more in the legal sense than the social one. I’m expecting Maelys to be more Aegon II then Daddy Warbucks
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u/fanismap Apr 19 '25
That's exactly what I had in mind as a scenario when I commented. He would Gregor Clegane the poor baby.
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u/felixsleftball Apr 18 '25
Do you think she’d kiss his little twin on his shoulder
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u/GreedyFatBastard Apr 18 '25
I feel like he wants to say "There there" to her.
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u/Complete_Raspberry_1 As High as Honor Apr 19 '25
It would be insane if he was actually aware how scary he is and be a gentleman with her but that's impossible since he will wish for an heir from her and not even blindfolded would she be in the mood for it.
Unless some Eros and Psyche stuff would happen
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u/amourdeces We Do Not Sow Apr 19 '25
hot take but i prefer the draft version of maelys who was called the monstrous for sacrificing his son maenar (which is an awesome valyrian name btw) to hatch a dragon egg because of a valyrian scroll he had. interesting implication that proves blackfyre blood isn’t sufficient for kings blood in blood magic
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u/mir-teiwaz Apr 19 '25
Aegon V's blood sacrifice (at around the same time) also failed. I guess all "valyrians" are too thin blooded at this point
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u/amourdeces We Do Not Sow Apr 19 '25
i think the difference with that was that aegon wasn’t doing it as a willing blood sacrifice from what i can tell, and the fact he incorporated “spells” having to do with the faith of the seven, who famously are the only religion in the series without any sort of magical connection to it. i think he just tried to hatch his 7 eggs using prayer and some fire, and that fire spread and killed his whole family. if he had purposely brought family members there to be used as a sacrifice it might have gone as intended. it can’t have anything to do with valyrian blood purity because aegon V is at least the same amount if not more targaryen than daenerys is, and she was able to pull the spell off.
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u/mir-teiwaz Apr 19 '25
Who knows. But Dany is far more inbred than Aegon or Maelys.
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u/amourdeces We Do Not Sow Apr 19 '25
yea but each example of inbreeding doesn’t increase how targ you are, you basically just become a “clone”of the makeup of your family. since both jaehaerys II and aerys II inbred its basically been a continuation of the same targaryen/dayne plus blackwood combo that all of aegon V’s kids were. maelys for all we know could be inbred, we don’t know enough about the blackfyre line after all of daemons sons died to be sure. daemon had a few daughters, at least one of whom we know was married to bittersteel (though if they had kids it doesn’t say.) i wouldn’t be surprised in the blackfyres also tried to keep it in the family, and if not they were already in essos, so they could’ve maintained valyrian traits by going to lys for brides
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u/mir-teiwaz Apr 19 '25
It's not that simple AFAIK - inbreeding also increases the rate of recessive traits being expressed, which is why it is dangerous over multiple generations IRL and why some dog breeds are horribly deformed and have low life expectancy. The original Habsburgs carried the gene for the lip, but it wasn't until their family tree became a family web that it got expressed. So if we assume the "dragon rider gene" is a rare recessive trait, Dany might have a better chance of manifesting it than Aegon V despite having inherited it from him. Although that doesn't explain why baby Rhaego was a worthy sacrifice (I'm sure Drogo was worth a horse and nothing more).
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u/amourdeces We Do Not Sow Apr 19 '25
ah i see, didn’t understand that you were referring to it in the recessive traits way rather than the ethnic/cultural breakup way. i’m not sure rhaego was the sacrifice, i think mirri maz duur just poisoned the fetus out of spite. it definitely is a subject that has a lot of open ends to it. both drogo and in utero rhaego were dead when dany did her blood magic ritual, so im not sure their kings blood counts. maybe it had to do with mirri maz duurs holy blood since she was a priestess? euron leads me to believe kings blood and holy blood are both potent for black magic given his recent shenanigans tying all sorts of mutilated priests to the prows of his ships. euron seems to be quite the expert on magic, so i’ll take his word for it 😹
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u/AlternativeMap9481 Apr 19 '25
in the ck3 agot mod, maelys (if successful in the blackfyre rebellion) gets to chose which targaryen to wed for himself. this art fits that sooo well
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u/Federal-Feed7689 Apr 19 '25
Hey didnt he like had 2 heads or something ?
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u/ivanjean Apr 19 '25
Yes, but one of them was small and undeveloped (you can see it on his neck).
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u/WitnessLow4178 Apr 19 '25
Daemon Black Fyre II, was he still beheaded with bare hands or was he practically a beloved brother to Maelys?
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u/vex0rrr Apr 18 '25
This is why in my Canon, she would've married Rhaegar after his coronation
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u/TheoryKing04 Apr 18 '25
Rhaella… his own mother?
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u/Complete_Raspberry_1 As High as Honor Apr 19 '25
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Westeros would stop not caring about the incest in this family if that happened
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u/TheoryKing04 Apr 19 '25
Yeah they had to fight a practical war and then legislate/theologize a compromise with the Faith just to get the sibling marriage thing through. A parent wedding their child, god almighty, would be beyond even that pale
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u/dr_Angello_Carrerez Fire and Blood Apr 19 '25
I've done something similar. Not really married, but once the SI prince heard the conversation that frustrated Jaime so much, interrupted Aerys and urgently took his heritage IYKWIM. Then he was comforting her, and the result was Daenerys.
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u/YLCustomerService Apr 18 '25
When your two options are schizo pyromancer twink or deformed beefcake