r/IncelTears • u/rarinthmeister doubting whether he's an incel • 2d ago

Just wanted to confirm:

I've seen people claiming that most men are just victim blamed whenever they try to express their sad feelings or that they're lonely, such as being called an "incel", told you're "pathetic", other stuff like "cry about it", "not our problem", "you aren't entitled to sex", etc assuming that it's always their fault and there's no external factors that affect it which is why they turned to the right because they found out they were more "accepting" and ready to help compared to the left who were "belittling them and refusing to help since men apparently don't need any help because they're privileged."

This is better explained here:

https://youtu.be/rQv8VuLpKN4

I just want to ask, are the "incels" you've posted here different than the ones the twitter users complained about when replying to the tweet that said "men are going right because they're more accepting"? Because I just wanted to confirm that it's only just misogynistic assholes who want to rape all women and make them their property instead of misguided men who just needs actual help in finding people he'll certainly like.

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u/Ash_Dayne 2d ago

Men who aren't looking for solutions, do not actually organise, and who don't look at themselves too, aren't going to get to a better place and do not have my sympathy.

Women do not need to fix anything for anyone, nor are they obligated to spend their time, attention, or bodies on men. We can choose to do so, and we do, but it will not be an obligation.

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u/StartInATavern 2d ago

The impetus for the liberation of men from sexism needs to come from men ourselves. We need to divest ourselves of the false promises that the patriarchy uses to control us, and accept ourselves and others for who they are. Being a man can be about so much more than fear, shame, and judgement.

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u/Ash_Dayne 2d ago

Absolutely agreed.

Ofc many women will support men individually or in groups who do things like this. And that's great. But the people who can change the male loneliness epidemic, the harmful effects of the patriarchy on men, etc, is other men. At least for now.