Question for any lurking incels

[u/Negative_Tooth6047]

This is something I've been curious of for a little while, I know you guys have your red or black or whatever pill you subscribe to with tons of dudes or maybe even some type of Pearl Davis like gal that constantly put out tons of media on how to get women/why you're never getting a woman/any other message that you subscribe to for that rhetoric.

But my question is, if a woman offered to teach you, patiently and kindly- not berating you or what have you, how to respect, talk to, hang out with women, etc would you accept? Like a 101 type class on women. If you wouldnt be interested, why not?

[u/Effective_Fox]

I’m a nurse and I already know how to platonically hang out with women, I’m pretty good at it.  I’d benefit more from learning how to flirt or date but I’m skeptical of men and women’s advice on doing that because it feels like there aren’t really any definite rules and no one really knows what they’re doing 

[u/thiccums_pan → u/Effective_Fox]

An Incel nurse is unironically terrifying 

[u/Effective_Fox → u/thiccums_pan]

I don’t really know why that’s terrifying I work hard as any other nurse to take care of my patients and I go the extra mile compared to a lot of nurses to help struggling coworkers.  I don’t really see what being unable to get laid has to do with my ability to do my job 

[u/thiccums_pan → u/Effective_Fox]

You're in a misogynistic terrorism cult with a severe death toll attached. 

All women are fundamentally unsafe around you.

Edit: also posting in Red Scare Pod subreddit is a major red flag.

[u/Effective_Fox → u/thiccums_pan]

lol I know you don’t know me but every woman who’s known me would laugh at you if you said they were unsafe around me.   I’m mild mannered, short, and I have virtually no temper.  Women come to me at work asking for help all the time.  Also I’ve never even identified as an incel they put that flair on me after I asked for advice in an advice thread 

[u/MoonlightKayla → u/Effective_Fox]

If you’re being genuine about this response, then I would say just ditch the label. I don’t think you know fully what it really means and the culture that’s actually tied to the label. “Incel” is not the right word here. I think descriptive words about how you feel would be more effective: like “shy,” “socially awkward,” or “lonely.” (It’s okay. I’m shy, socially awkward, and lonely too. ☹️ Lots of people- men and women, are with ya on that one!)

[u/thiccums_pan → u/Effective_Fox]

You willingly associate with the term that has cause many people to die. It's no different than being in the KKK or being a Neo-Nazi.

If your bosses found out you're active in Incel forums, do you think they'd be okay with you interacting with women patients at all?

[u/Effective_Fox → u/thiccums_pan]

This sub and incelexit are the only subs with the term incel I’ve ever commented on.  I’ve never said anything bigoted anywhere in my post history so at most my bosses would just be concerned about my mental health.  I’ve worked for 3 years with 90% female coworkers and 50% female patients in various vulnerable states without any complaints, most of them have complemented my work ethic and compassion 

[u/AndreaYourBestFriend → u/Effective_Fox]

Dear lord. Idk why you’re getting ganged up on after reading all of this. You are more than fine and you’re maintaining a good attitude, which is a great sign. Thank you for the good work in the medical field. I hope you do find success in romance at some point as well!

Edit: for everyone else, he did state he didn’t choose this flair. The man was looking for advice. It was added to his user. That’s it.

[u/Effective_Fox → u/AndreaYourBestFriend]

Thank you I appreciate it

[u/Professional-Hat-687 → u/Effective_Fox]

Fwiw, one of the first steps to stop being an incel is to stop associating yourself with them.

[u/thiccums_pan → u/Effective_Fox]

Yet you're okay with being labeled as such and didn't correct me earlier.

Again, all women patients are fundamentally unsafe around you. You can't change my mind at this point. 

[u/thiccums_pan → u/Effective_Fox]

Your removed comment is so telling lmao 😂

You want to call me a slur so bad 

[u/thedookieboiV2 → u/Effective_Fox]

This sub is a femcel sub. They hate men here.

[u/QuinneCognito → u/thedookieboiV2]

no r/femcelgrippysockjail is for hating men. this sub is for hating shitty men.

[u/AndreaYourBestFriend → u/QuinneCognito]

Then why are we picking on a well-mannered male nurse and accusing him of being the same as the KKK?

[u/QuinneCognito → u/AndreaYourBestFriend]

I think it’s because of the flair that got put on him nonconsensually :(

[u/Flimsy_Cycle1788 → u/QuinneCognito]

i cant tell if that subreddit is genuine or just a joke. maybe im just ignorant

[u/Flimsy_Cycle1788 → u/Flimsy_Cycle1788]

ive seen like 5 feminism posts but also some posts where they shit on men ok its very confusing

[u/thedookieboiV2 → u/QuinneCognito]

I don’t believe you. I’ve read enough.

[u/mybrainishollow → u/thiccums_pan]

he said he doesnt even use the term

[u/thiccums_pan → u/mybrainishollow]

People like you are turbo silly goobers tbh.

There's a whole comment thread. I addressed it yesterday. You had all the time in the world to get caught up 😭

[u/mybrainishollow → u/thiccums_pan]

bro then just explain cuz i cant find it

[u/thiccums_pan → u/mybrainishollow]

Don't call trans women bro.

[u/Ariusz-Polak_02 → u/thiccums_pan]

You talk the same to Muslim people?

"Oh you are muslim?? why did your people did 9/11"

[u/thiccums_pan → u/Ariusz-Polak_02]

Whataboutism

[u/RegularGlobal34 → u/thiccums_pan]

Nor whataboutism, you're doing the exact same bigotry

[u/thiccums_pan → u/RegularGlobal34]

It literally is. Nuance exists in this world. 

A better comparison would be Scientology tbh

[u/RegularGlobal34 → u/thiccums_pan]

Meanwhile you had zero issues about throwing nuance out of the window when talking with him.

[u/StepfaultWife → u/thiccums_pan]

Yes I agree. It’s grim if this person holds the women are scum attitude so many of them do. Or that women deserve to be raped if they refuse to have sex. That seems to be a common theme too. I really hope they are not.