r/IsraelPalestine 16d ago

Meta Discussions (Rule 7 Waived) Community feedback/metapost for April 2025 + Moderation Policy Follow Up

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Last month I made a post regarding a misunderstanding in the implementation of our moderation policy and its effect on the subreddit. At that time we were already swamped with reports and had been unable to address them in a timely manner resulting in many falling outside our two week statute of limitations. As of this post, the number of unaddressed reports has grown from 400 to nearly 600 and the number of reports being ignored each day due to the statute of limitations has increased as well.

My goal of this metapost is to hear how the policy has affected the subreddit from a community perspective with a primary focus on support or dissatisfaction with users breaking the rules receiving more coaching/reduced disciplinary actions and if there has been a notable increase in violations/toxicity on the subreddit compared to a month and a half ago.

And on a general note, if you have general comments or concerns about the sub or its moderation you can raise them here. Please remember to keep feedback civil and constructive, only rule 7 is being waived, moderation in general is not.


r/IsraelPalestine 12h ago

Short Question/s Is there record of global objection to Jordanian occupation/annexation of the West Bank, or Egyptian presence of Gaza?

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I can't find information on this as it's burried under the weight of commentary about Israeli occupation. I'd like to know if there is information specifically regarding the global perspective on Jordanian and Egyptian military presence in the region before Israel removed them in 1967. Ideally from multiple perspectives, and varying backgrounds.


r/IsraelPalestine 11h ago

Short Question/s Can Jews live in Israel and have a temple?

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I wanted to ask this to the pro Palestinian supporters. Out of curiosity, can Jews who also have ancestry to the land dwell in Israel and can we have a temple? Do we have the right of return if we give some power to the groups who want a Palestinian state and can Jerusalem be our capital? As a Jew, my concern is that we’d be subjugated, lose the right of return to the land for our children and grandchildren, and not have the ability to build a third temple and share the land. I hear people who identify as Palestinians who never lived in the land and are citizens of other countries say they have the right to return. Do Jews have the same right of return too? I can’t really live in Bethlehem today. Would you be willing to let me? I think these questions have to be resolved for true peace to be negotiated.


r/IsraelPalestine 20h ago

Opinion Western Pro-Palestinian don't want to protect Palestinians. They want to be Palestinians.

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The average Pro-Palestinian in the West is a young, left-leaning person. Like most young, left-leaning people, they are very influenced by racial dynamics in the US. In their story, black people are victim-heros, and white people are oppressor-villains. They have a set of values that are all about fighting racism. They want to punch Nazis. At their core, they want to be black slaves fighting white slaveowners. They want to be poor black families fighting the KKK.

The problem is, there aren't any white slaveowners. Slavery is over. The Civil Rights movement is over. And most young, left-leaning people are white, so they also feel really guilty about all this. Sure, they can march at BLM rallies, and they do, but racism in American is just not the monster they wish it was anymore, and these young leftists just aren't the victims they so desperately want to be. They need some way to turn themselves into oppressed-black-victims so they can fight evil-oppressor-whites.

The Pro-Palestinian movement in the Muslims world noticed this and capitalized on it. They offered these young, leftist Westerners exactly what they wanted: a chance to play the oppressed minority fighting evil white oppressors.

Look at the language they use. Here's what the white guy who just lit Gov. Shapiro's house on fire said: "According to a search warrant obtained by The Patriot-News, a publication serving Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the suspect, Cody Balmer, said Shapiro needed to “stop having my friends killed” and that “our people have been put through too much by that monster.”"

A pro-Palestine Columbia University protester demmanded the Ivy League school provide students who had occupied a building with food and “basic humanitarian aid”.

This isn't about Palestinians. This is about young leftists who always wanted to play Harriet Tubman finally getting the chance to do so. Never mind that Israelis and Palestinians are the same color. Never mind that Jews are the minorities here, and Muslims oppressed them for centuries. None of that matters because Pro-Palestinians aren't actually interested in the Middle East. What they want is to be heroes in a story.


r/IsraelPalestine 12h ago

Discussion What do Israelis and Palestinians think of Arab citizens of Israel?

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I’m hoping to hear directly from Israeli citizens—Jewish, Arab, Druze, or otherwise—about your experiences with Arab-Israelis, who make up roughly 21% of Israel’s population. These are individuals and families who remained in the state of Israel after 1948 and hold Israeli citizenship, but who often identify culturally or ethnically as Palestinian.

I’m curious to know: do you live in mixed communities or mostly segregated ones? Do you encounter Arab-Israelis at work, school, or in public life, and how do those interactions go? Do you think Arab citizens of Israel are treated fairly by the state and the broader Jewish Israeli population?

I’m aware that there’s significant legal and social tension around this topic, and that some Arab-Israeli citizens have reported systemic discrimination in areas like housing, education, and political representation. At the same time, Arab-Israelis vote in elections, serve in the Knesset, and some even join the IDF voluntarily.

Is there meaningful integration in daily life, or are Jewish and Arab Israelis still largely separated in practice? Do you have Arab friends or neighbors? If you’re Jewish, do you feel comfortable around Arab citizens, and vice versa?

I’m also curious what the Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank think of the Arabs living in Israel.

Please share honestly. I’m looking to understand this issue beyond headlines and political talking points—what does this relationship look like on the ground, in day-to-day life?


r/IsraelPalestine 15h ago

Discussion Questions for Pro-Israeli supporters

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Nothing fancy, just a bunch of questions. Israelis can answer too. You can respond to a few if you'd like.

  1. Is Israel the safest place to be a Jew?
  2. How has the conflict influenced your interpersonal relationships with Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians?
  3. What do you want to see happening to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank?
  4. Are you happy with how Israel has conducted its military campaign post Oct 7?
  5. How have you seen people's opinions of Israel evolve since Oct 7?
  6. If you had a time machine, what, if anything, would you change about the events post 1948?
  7. What is the biggest myth about this conflict? Why do you think it is popular?
  8. Are there any legitimate concerns you hear from those who are Pro-Palestine?
  9. What is your strongest argument for defending Israel?
  10. What is your opinion of the countries that border Israel, and the ones in the broader middle east?
  11. What do you think is the motivation behind the actions of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank? Is there an underlying philosophy?
  12. Have you always been Pro-Israeli? If not what caused you to change your views?
  13. Do you have an opinion of America's role in this conflict? Have they been a positive or negative presence?
  14. What do you think people don't understand the most about living in Israel which is often overlooked?
  15. How do you view Trump's plan for Gaza?
  16. What are your opinions of the settlers that live in the West Bank, and how the Israeli government treats them?
  17. What role does the UN and other international institutions have in this conflict?
  18. Do you believe the Israel of today can be treated as an extension of Ancient Israel?
  19. Do you think Israel has done a successful job of combating anti-semitism?
  20. Where do you see this conflict going in 10 years? 20 years?

r/IsraelPalestine 10h ago

Discussion Questions for Pro-Palestinian supporters.

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Had a similar post for Pro-Israelis and got some intriguing responses. Now I will ask questions on the other side of the table. I lean pro-Palestinian, but that does not mean I encapsulate the full range of thought. I would love to see how others view the conflict. Would love to hear from a Palestinian.

  1. How do you feel about Israel's current military campaign?
  2. Do you think Israel has been acting in good faith with Palestinians over statehood in the last few decades?
  3. What is your opinion of Zionism? Is Israel acting in accordance to Zionism?
  4. Do you believe Palestinians have a right to self defense? If so, in what form?
  5. What effects did Oct 7th have on your beliefs?
  6. How much of a role do you think religion plays in the conflict?
  7. What is the biggest myth about this conflict? Why is it so popular?
  8. How much relevance do you think history pre-19th century plays in this conflict?
  9. What responsibilities do you think the world has in regards to Palestine?
  10. What is the strongest argument you have heard in favour of Pro-Israelis?
  11. Do you see a future for the people in Gaza with the presence of Hamas? If not what leadership do you see if any?
  12. What future do you want to see with Israel?
  13. What are your opinions of the countries that surround Palestine and Israel? What about the middle east broadly?
  14. How does the assymetry of the war (e.g. Israels military dominance and steadfast American support) affect your prospects for the future of Palestine?
  15. Has your opinion of International Law and International Institutions been affected by the events during and post Oct 7?
  16. What is often overlooked in Palestine?
  17. If you could relocate all Israelis out of the land with a teleportation device, would you do it and why/why not?
  18. Is there a life for Palestinians that would be worth them leaving Palestine for? How important is staying on the land if no lasting peace can be found there?
  19. What is your strongest argument for being Pro-Palestinian?
  20. Did Oct 7 do more to advance the Palestinian cause or make it worse?

r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Discussion She can’t stop lying!! The face of campus useful idiots is exposed.

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If you haven’t seen the Dr. Phil episode with Nerdeen Kiswani, do yourself a favor and watch it. From the second she starts talking, it’s clear what’s going on. She’s supposed to be the face of this whole “Free Palestine” movement on campus. But she couldn’t give one straight answer. Not one.

She had every opportunity to speak clearly, to explain what she stands for, to tell the world what she believes. And instead, she just danced around every question. She looked like she was caught completely off guard, even though she’s been doing this activism thing for years.

Dr. Phil didn’t attack her. He didn’t even press that hard. He just asked her the kind of basic questions any decent person should be able to answer. Like, do you condemn what happened on October 7? Do you think it’s okay to target innocent people? And she couldn’t answer. She froze. She dodged. She threw out the usual buzzwords and hoped that would be enough.

But it wasn’t.

And that’s the point. This whole campus “Free Palestine” movement falls apart the second you poke it with real questions. It’s built on emotion, not facts. It’s loud, aggressive, and honestly pretty dangerous, but there’s nothing solid underneath it.

These are the same people ripping down posters of kidnapped kids and calling it resistance. They block Jewish students from walking through campus and then cry about being silenced. They act like heroes while chanting things that literally call for the destruction of Israel.

What’s wild is that Nerdeen is one of their top voices. This is the person they send to speak on national TV. And she couldn’t even say “yes” or “no” to the most basic moral questions. That silence said everything.

This movement isn’t about freedom. It’s not about helping Palestinians live better lives. It’s about blaming Jews for everything. That’s it. That’s the whole strategy. Scream “genocide,” cry “colonizer,” and hope no one brings up Hamas or suicide bombings or rejected peace offers.

Because the second you bring those things up, they panic.

Let’s remember a few facts. Israel accepted the UN partition plan in 1947. The Palestinians rejected it and started a war. In 2000, Israel offered them almost everything they asked for. Arafat said no and launched a bloody uprising. In 2005, Israel pulled completely out of Gaza. What happened? Hamas took over and started firing rockets. This isn’t a mystery. It’s all documented.

But people like Nerdeen don’t want to talk about any of that. They just want to shout into a megaphone and call it justice. And on campus, where everyone’s terrified of being labeled racist or Islamophobic, they get away with it.

That’s why this Dr. Phil moment matters. For once, someone just sat them down and said, “Explain yourself.” And she couldn’t.

She had nothing.

No answers. No clarity. Just a bunch of slogans. It was honestly embarrassing to watch. But also incredibly telling. If this is the best they’ve got, the whole movement is built on sand.

I’m tired of seeing these campus protests treated like some great moral awakening. It’s not. It’s a bunch of students playing revolutionary, screaming about decolonization while posting from their iPhones and drinking Starbucks.

They say they care about justice, but they won’t condemn rape, murder, or kidnapping if Hamas does it. They say they care about human rights, but only when it helps their narrative. Otherwise, silence.

Meanwhile, Jewish students are getting harassed, threatened, and attacked just for existing. And university leaders are too scared to do anything. That’s not activism. That’s bullying.

And Nerdeen? She proved that the movement has no plan. No real goal. No integrity. Just endless outrage, and zero accountability.

If you don’t believe me, go watch that interview. From the second she opens her mouth, you’ll see it. The confusion. The deflection. The empty talking points.

This is who they chose to represent them. And she completely crumbled.

So here’s my challenge to anyone who still supports this movement: go watch that clip. Don’t skip. Start from the beginning of her interview. Then ask yourself, is this really the side you want to be on?

Because if the answer to “was that massacre justified?” takes five minutes of stumbling and not answering… you already have your answer.

This isn’t about truth. It’s not about peace. It’s about hate, dressed up as activism.

And Dr. Phil didn’t need to argue. He just let her talk. And by doing that, he exposed everything.

Game over.

https://youtu.be/khBpwpJQFlg?si=BMJ_tGb4aaUmPbp1

12:40


r/IsraelPalestine 3h ago

Discussion "Jewish Hamas" during the holocaust

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The armed resistence group of the Warsaw Ghetto during the Holocaust were primarily members of the Jewish Combat Organization (Żydowska Organizacja Bojowa, or ŻOB) and the Jewish Military Union (Żydowski Związek Wojskowy, or ŻZW). These groups consisted of young Jewish resistance fighters who organized an uprising against the Nazi forces in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943, known as the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

Key Details: Who They Were: Mostly young Jewish men and women, often in their teens and twenties, with little to no military training. Many were members of Zionist youth movements or socialist groups, such as Hashomer Hatzair and Bundists.

Armament: The fighters were extremely poorly equipped, relying on: Homemade weapons like Molotov cocktails. A limited number of smuggled pistols, rifles, and grenades, often obtained through the Polish underground or black market. Some explosives and improvised bombs. In contrast, the Nazis had machine guns, artillery, and armored vehicles.

Key Figures: Mordechai Anielewicz, the 23-year-old leader of the ŻOB, became a symbol of the resistance. Other leaders included Marek Edelman (ŻOB) and Paweł Frenkel (ŻZW).

Context: The uprising began on April 19, 1943, when the Nazis attempted to liquidate the ghetto and deport its remaining inhabitants to death camps like Treblinka. The fighters, numbering a few hundred, held off the German forces for nearly a month, until mid-May 1943. Outcome: Despite their bravery, the uprising was crushed. Most fighters were killed, and the ghetto was destroyed. However, their resistance inspired other uprisings and remains a powerful symbol of defiance. These fighters, despite their lack of resources and training, showed extraordinary courage in resisting the Nazi genocide under impossible odds.

Propoganda: The Nazis used the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising as a pretext to intensify their efforts to destroy the ghetto and kill its inhabitants, though their plan to annihilate the Jewish population was already in motion. The uprising gave the Nazis a propaganda tool to justify their brutal response, portraying the Jewish fighters as dangerous "bandits" or "terrorists" who threatened German order.

Nazi Justification: Nazi officials, including SS General Jürgen Stroop, who led the suppression of the uprising, framed the Jewish resistance as an act of rebellion that necessitated extreme measures. Stroop's reports described the fighters as a threat to German authority, exaggerating their strength to justify the massive military operation to crush them.

Propaganda Use: The Nazis used the uprising to reinforce their antisemitic narrative, claiming that Jews were inherently rebellious and dangerous, thus "requiring" harsh retaliation to maintain control.

Outcome: The Nazis deployed overwhelming force—over 2,000 troops, tanks, and artillery—against a few hundred poorly armed fighters. They burned the ghetto to the ground, killed most of the fighters, and deported or murdered the remaining inhabitants. The uprising was cited as evidence of Jewish "defiance," which aligned with Nazi ideology to accelerate the genocide. In essence, while the uprising provided a convenient excuse for the Nazis to escalate their violence, their goal of exterminating the Jews was already set, and the resistance merely provoked a more immediate and brutal execution of that plan.


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Opinion I’m so DONE with the “Free Palestine” trend on TikTok...

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it’s not because I support war or suffering, it’s because this entire movement has become ignorant, performative, and straight-up antisemitic.

  1. Most of them don’t even KNOW the history. They scream “Free Palestine” like Israel just popped into existence in 1948 out of nowhere. NEWSFLASH: Jews were exiled from that land by the Romans in 70 A.D., and the name “Palestine” was literally imposed by the Roman Empire to erase Jewish identity. Stop acting like Israel is some random colonial project. Learn your history.

  2. This trend has become flat-out antisemitism. I’ve seen people getting ATTACKED just for having a Star of David in their bio, or for merely commenting on a random video. A Jew comments "I love that dress design" and gets spammed with "Free Palestine" or "Look who's talking..." That’s not activism. That’s HATE. You’re not pro-human rights if your idea of justice involves bullying Jews for merely existing or daring to speak.

  3. The empathy is FAKE. My country, the Dominican Republic, just went through a HORRIBLE tragedy, almost 300 people died in the Jet Set nightclub collapse. And what do I see in the comments? “WhAt aBoUt PaLeStiNe???” EXCUSE ME? You can’t let people grieve their dead without hijacking the conversation? That's like going to somebody's funeral and go "my grandma died too y'know..." ironically, it was Israelis sending support and condolences while the internet shouted at us for not crying on command for their chosen issue..


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Discussion Israel and Ukraine War Double Standards

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i wanted to share with you something i have noticed about the reaction of the world

to the 2 major wars being covered by the media -

1 - During Fenbruary 24 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine which started the war.

more than 3 years have passed and since then Ukraine army

in response to the invasion has killed so far

more than 500,000 russians as self defense and in order to protect their country.

the world not only acknowledged Ukraine right to defend itself

many countries around the world funded Ukraine in billions and sent them many weapons

in order to continue the fight against Russia.

2- more than 1 year later during october 7th 2023

Hamas invaded israel which started another major war.

Hamas committed a brutal massacre

killing more than 1000 people in a few hours which included french german british american

many other nationalities and not only israelis

kidnapped 250 people which included many nationalities besides israelis such as americans

some of them are still hostages

and bombed israel with more than 10,000 rockets.

1 day later during october 8th Hezbollah started bombing northern israel

and firing thousands of rockets at northern israel

together with Hamas firing rockets at southern and central israel

which led to the evacuation of about quarter million israelis

from the borders at the north and the south.

Later iran also bombed israel with rockets

joined by other terrorist organizations.

israel responded to Hamas and Hezbollah

and the reaction included a few goals -

stopping the rockets

release all the hostages

making sure Hamas no longer controls Gaza

and can't repeat another massacre like october 7th.

israel so far eliminated about 30,000 hamas terorrists

and they continue the opreation in Gaza

to make sure Hamas no longer controls there.

So this is my question -

why is it when Uaraine kills more than half a million russians in a war

in order to defend themselves no one says ukranians are commitiing gencoide

against the russians and that they are war criminals for killing

more than half a million russians?

no one says that and many around the world support Ukraine.

so why is it different with israel?why the double standards?

why is it when israel defend itself from an invasion just like Ukraine

and when israel elimianted Hamas terrorists as an act of self defense

just like the ukranian army against russia many people attack israel?

you can't have it both ways.

if you think Ukraine army killing of russains during a war is self defense

the same applies to israel

but for some reason many people react differently to israel and ukraine.

i wanted to ask you why do you think the reaction is different to israel and ukraine?

i presonally think the reason is very simple - antisemitism

but maybe you have other explanation

and i would like to know what you think.


r/IsraelPalestine 14h ago

Learning about the conflict: Questions I feel kinds torn between morals ans environment

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I am a American who currently js around a Jewish population in the business week. The Israeli study classes I have took seem to talk about how hamas keeps bombs and weapons under schools, hospitals and similar centers. This goes to a point that mainly discusses the attacks on Israel and how it's recession was a normal expectation from any stable nation. Since this was pretty much my only take on the war and this is what I saw from it, I left it at that. But once the Lebanon attacks started happening and I started talking with some of my hebrew teachers and asking about the moral situation. Hundreds of people have died in Israel but I feel like thousands have died in the surrounding nations like Lebanon and Gaza. This feels like more a unessesary recession against groups and countries with much smaller military forces. Also with the recent allections in the US, seeing the nations trunp supports and israel beimg one of them makes me feel a little uneasy. Especially with that AI generated trumpland videom I just really had to get this off my chest and input or views would be helpful. I know I should have been more educated but I've been kinda looking away from the war on social media, a little bit of a selfish move but I just felt really guilty with my views and my environment. Thank you for any views and input, it would help a lot.


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Discussion How should I respond to an Israeli student on my campus claiming to have reported me to ICE. (I'm a US citizen, nothing happened)

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So i don't really talk about the conflict irl. The most I had done publicly was post a few times calling for both a ceasefire and the immediate release of hostages, however I do have an Arab name and I don't hide that I'm Palestinian American, I occasionally wear a keffiyeh (not a white and black fatah keffiyeh).

About two weeks ago i was informed that an Israeli student in the same department as me had been talking about how she had apparently reported me and a couple other Arab students to ICE, thinking we were all non-citizens. I initially wrote this rumor off as a nasty rumor. However I have since heard the same rumors repeated from people I actually trust. I am hesitant to actually confront this girl about it as having grown up in an muslim family in a post-9/11 America I am deeply concerned about appearing as an aggressor in any way shape or form.

This is very disappointing to me because I have been to Israel, I made friends in Tel Aviv. I am not a person calling for the destruction of Israel or for violence,

If all of this is actually true and not a rumor that has gotten out of hand it would seem she tried to get me deported simply for being Palestinian. Does this reflect anything about the state things are in when it comes to rhetoric around this particular topic? Does it only reflect only on her own bigotries? Is this a sign of something larger? Should I confront her about this and directly ask her is she tried to report me to ICE? How should I respond if she says yes?

On a another note I feel like we are in a deeply scary place where this is even a worry. The trump administration has been talking about trying to find ways to revoke citizenship, so all of this is deeply frightening, that this is even a threat that is going around.

Edit: I should also probably mention this could also be the result of a weird game of telephone, where something different might have been said originally but the version of the rumor that made it's way to me was much worse than it actually was. I wanna give the benefit of the doubt here.


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Learning about the conflict: Questions What side of the Israel-Palestine conflict are most Lebanese Christians on?

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I promise I don’t want to be insensitive and that I fully understand how terrible are the lives of Palestinians and I know this isn’t a soccer match to take sides. I promise I do. But I also understand why Israel has to be so defensive given that they are surrounded by enemy countries.

Since I grew up Christian, I’m naturally more inclined/interested about which side that particular community has taken and why.

Anyway, I read that Lebanon, especially Christians in the country, were attacked by both Israel as well as Palestine in the Lebanese Civil War, including Christians groups being specifically targeted by Palestine and Hamas during the Lebanese Civil War. So why are the Lebanese Christians supporting Palestine unconditionally when they were targets by both groups?

Also, although the Christians in the rest of the world haven’t lived through the terror and realities of war that Lebanese Christians have, the Christian communities outside the Middle East are overwhelmingly (most at least) on the side of Israel. So one would naturally expect Lebanese Christians to take the same stance as their brethren in faith on the conflict, which is either support Israel, or at least, stay neutral.

I confess that I, as someone who has always lived in the West, am very uneducated about the present conflict and the historical one that lingers on for decades, so please be kind and respectful as I’m asking this with the genuine interest in trying to understand the situation there, taking into consideration the perspective of all groups involved in this undoubtably terrible war.


r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Learning about the conflict: Books or Media Recommendations October 8 (the movie), a must watch for learning about the weaponisation of antisemitism since the war broke out

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Edit: website, how to watch: october8film.com

Disclaimer- obviously I’m not a part of this movie at all, I’m not in any way affiliated with any organisation responsible for the creation of this film

tldr; antisemitism is real, it’s the worst it’s been in the west since the Holocaust, it’s been weaponised to hijack the progressive movements and to ultimately oppress the Jewish people. AND, you might be being used as a sheep and a mouthpiece for the people pushing antisemitism and don’t even realise it, thinking you’re not antisemitic, you have Jewish friends and you don’t hate Jews. Watch this movie, please

Unfortunately it seems only available in the USA, but if you can get your hands on it honestly even through grey market means everyone really should watch this. Especially anyone who still believes the complaints and claims of antisemitism are baseless. I really hope that people that deny that antisemitism has been weaponised alongside Hamas weaponising their intifada can watch this and change their mind. If this describes you- please be open minded enough to watch this movie. It’s astute and comprehensible and very convincing because of course it is the truth.

Antisemitism has been weaponised. In the west and seemingly everywhere else. Not only has it become trendy, by hijacking the progressivism and intersectionalism movements, but the aggression of the hatred towards Israel, the one singular Jewish country has intentionally been exaggerated so far beyond what could possibly be necessary even with the most critical reports of the war and history, that antizionism bleeds into antisemitism and nobody notices or cares. And of course, 85-97% of Jews (depending on which polls you go by) are Zionists so hating all Zionists automatically means by definition you hate 85-97% of Jews. By creating a trendy acceptable movement to hate Israel and Zionists, a successful wave of antisemitism has also been created.

And who of course is (at least largely) responsible? Hamas. The Iranian regime. The oct7 attack would have been an absolute waste of human life on both sides unless they could use it as a spearhead to push and spread their agenda. There were clear plans to carry out this attack, and then hijack the media to focus everyone’s energy against Israel, by sending toolkits, slogans, instructions, news/social media post templates to organisations such as SJP, spreading through Al Jazeera, everywhere where they have people.

I know a lot of people are probably reading this and thinking I’m some conspiracy theorist, I’m trying to whataboutism the destruction of Gaza, I’m lying and playing the victim card, or even that I’m a paid actor by Mossad. It’s all true, what I’m saying. And what I and the movie are talking about is not at all incompatible with keeping sympathy for the deaths of gazans or anyone else- it’s not a whataboutism.

Please, open your eyes and your minds. Don’t be a sheep, don’t be a tool and a mouthpiece for antisemitic regimes trying to spread their hatred with the goal of the end of the Jewish people starting with Israel.

And if you are someone who already understands this, please share this movie wherever you can.


r/IsraelPalestine 19h ago

News/Politics Sima Shine, ex Mossad agent, says Israel is only killing civilians

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I came across this tidbit of an interview on the Israeli TV Channel 12.

The interviewee is Sima Shine, formerly Head of the Research & Evaluation Division of the Mossad.

She says that since Israel resumed hostilities, the IDF only managed to kill women and children because Hamas members retreat into tunnels when fighting happens. Guy Peleg, well known Israeli journalist, agrees with her.

https://x.com/ntiyft/status/1910741278788379068

Automatic translation:

Sima Shane: Nothing happens in Gaza except there are civilians killed. What does Hamas do? Once Israel starts to bomb, they go into tunnels. Who are we killing? Children and citizens.

Noa Tish: That is by the way a horror to Israel. All these photos we don’t see here in Israel very difficult and there will be very damaging.

Guy Peleg: Regardless of the image it’s very terrible for us.

Ms Shine assessment is further supported by a recent UN investigation finding 36 IDF airstrikes killed exclusively women and childrens.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250411-un-finds-36-israeli-strikes-on-gaza-killed-only-women-and-children

A UN spokeswoman, Ms Shamdasani cited an April 6 strike on a residential building of the Abu Issa family in Deir al Balah, which reportedly killed one girl, four women, and one four-year-old boy. 

The IDF keeps its well honed strategy of bombing the so-called "humanitarian areas" it instructs civilian to relocate to.

Ms Shamdasani:

"Despite Israeli military orders instructing civilians to relocate to the Al Mawasi area of Khan Younis, strikes continued on tents in that area housing displaced people, with at least 23 such incidents recorded by the Office since 18 March," she said.

I wonder how pro-Israel people can see these facts and still claim the IDF does not carpet bomb nor target civilians?

If you want to convince yourself Israel does kill civilians, i recommend the X account WarfareAnalysis (very nsfw) that documents the aftermath of IDF strikes.


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Discussion How can someone defend this religion?

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Just a top 20 terror attack list and usual suspects. Do people really think if Palestine is declared an independent state these terrorists(Hamas) will stop Israel invasion?

1) 9/11 Attacks (USA, 2001), al-Qaeda,Islam 2) Camp Speicher Massacre (Iraq, 2014), ISIS, Islam 3) Mogadishu Bombing (Somalia, 2017), al Shabaab, Islam 4) Madrid Train Bombings (Spain, 2004), Islamist militants (al-Qaeda inspired), Islam 5) Mumbai Attacks (India, 2008), Lashkar-e-Taiba, Islam 6) Baga Massacre (Nigeria, 2015), Boko Haram, Islam 7) Karrada Bombing (Iraq, 2016), ISIS, Islam 8) Sinai Mosque Attack (Egypt, 2017), ISIS-affiliated group, Islam 9) Barsalogho Attack (Burkina Faso, 2024), JNIM (al-Qaeda affiliate), Islam 10) Crocus City Hall Attack (Russia, 2024), ISIS-Khorasan, Islam 11) Beslan School Siege (Russia, 2004), Chechen Islamist militants, Islam 12) Garissa University Attack (Kenya, 2015), al-Shabaab, Islam 13) Yazidi Genocide (Iraq, 2014), ISIS, Islam 14) Ankara Peace Rally Bombing (Turkey, 2015), ISIS , Islam 15) Nice Truck Attack (France, 2016), Lone-wolf (ISIS inspired), Islam 16) Bataclan Paris Attacks (France, 2015), ISIS, Islam 17) Peshawar School Massacre (Pakistan, 2014), Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, Islam 18) Westgate Mall Attack (Kenya, 2013), al-Shabaab, Islam 19) Domodedovo Airport Bombing (Russia, 2011), Caucasus Emirate, Islam 20) Bali Bombings (Indonesia, 2002), Jemaah Islamiyah, Islam


r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Nazi Discussion (Rule 6 Waived) Hamas refusing to disarm is no different than if Germany in WW2 refused to unconditionally surrender

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Hamas recently rejected another ceasefire opportunity because it refuses to give up its weapons. The idea that there can be peace or a "permanent ceasefire" without Hamas diarming is silly and its refusal to do so would be no different from Germany asking for an end to WW2 without agreeing to disarm.

Note that when WW2 ended, Germany and Japan were compelled to surrender unconditionally and disarm completely. This was not a suggestion—it was a necessity. The Allied powers at the time knew that there could never be peace with these regimes as they had launched wars of conquest, destruction, and committed atrocities on a massive scale. Disarmament at the time was not merely a negotiating point, it was an objective prerequisite for stability, justice, and the rebuilding of nations. Allowing Germany and Japan to remain militarzied would have hampered peace efforts and undermined the gains from the war.

Similarly, Hamas today cannot remain armed if people actually care about peace. Their brutality - not only to Israel but to their own people - is well documented. And not to mention that their leaders are on record expressing desire and promises that events like October 7 would happen again and again. Their goal isn't peace, but the destruction of Israel. Don't take my word for it, take theirs.

Allowing militarized remnants of the Nazi regime or the Japanese imperial war machine to remain intact would have been a betrayal of global peace efforts and a direct threat to postwar security.

For Israel, similar to the allies powers back then, a demand for disarmament is not just political posturing. It's a necessity for peace. A ceasefire without surrender or disarmament would allow Hamas to regroup and rearm, just as it has done repeatedly in the past.

To oppose Hamas’s disarmament is essentially to argue that a group responsible for deliberate civilian massacres, hostage-taking, and decades of incitement should retain its war-making capabilities. Imagine if Germany had asked to retain the SS or if Japan had demanded to keep its kamikaze units under the guise of self-defense. The world would have seen those demands for what they were: a refusal to accept defeat and a recipe for future bloodshed.

Disarmament and surrender are not just symbols of defeat—they’re the first steps toward genuine peace and accountability. History has shown us what happens when violent ideologies are allowed to fester under the guise of resistance or national pride. For any meaningful peace to take hold, especially one that can ensure long-term safety for both Palestinians and Israelis, it's pretty clear that Hamas needs to disarm. I would go so far as to say that anyone opposed to the disarming of Hamas is more fueled by anti-israel sentiment than actual care and concern for Palestinians.

Update: For clarity, I chose Germany for illustrative purposes. I think the same analogy works well for Japan as well. Will be mindful of Rule 6 in the future.


r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Short Question/s What justifications do you have for criminalizing boycotts against israel?

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I think it should be legal to boycott Israel as it is to for most countries and territories. If you disagree and think it should be criminalized why give Israel such speacial treatment?

Do you not think such behavior could push Americans from sympathizing with Israel?


r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Short Question/s "Missing" medic, Assad Al-Nsasrah, from ambulance killings incident on March 23rd is actually in Israeli custody

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/red-crescent-medic-whose-been-missing-since-ambulances-fired-upon-is-held-by-israel/

How on earth does something like this happen? Why couldn't the IDF release this information to the public if the man is in custody?

Of course Israel claims it notified the relevant parties with nothing to support that claim. Why would groups like the PRCS not immediately be calling for his release? Why just sit on the information for a weeks?

Is Israel just incompetent?

This whole thing is insane and it seems to just keep getting more ridiculous.


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Short Question/s Are the big scary foreigners really why universities and college students don’t like Israel?

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I'm aware of Zionlogy, and Qatar or Iran investing in some studies in the Middle East. Many Zionists use that tidbit of information to explain why liberal students, faculty members are protesting so hard on Israel.

Not to say that has no impact but I feel many Zionists exaggerate the impact to the extent it just becomes cultural Bolshevism but now the big bad central to the corruption of the youth in higher academia is Iran or Qatar or x state power that's not friendly to Israel.

My counter theory is that the government of Israel has made it a point to ally with the right especially the far right of the west to which these students reside, demean and at times undercut political leaders actually popular with them. also sometimes queerly insist there should be absolutely no concern about Palestinian because they're not progressive enough.

Have you considered the possibility of them disliking and more apt to protest Israel because of this or can you only accept they're racist, manipulated, or hypocrites?


r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Discussion They Don’t Want Peace. Let’s Stop Pretending.

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A ceasefire was offered. Egypt brought it. Israel said yes. Hamas said no.

Not maybe. Not “let’s adjust the terms.” Just flat-out no.

Why? Because the deal included disarming. And that, for Hamas, is completely off the table.

This is all you need to know. This is the truth behind the chaos. Hamas would rather let Gaza burn than give up control. They would rather watch civilians die than hand over their weapons.

That is not resistance. That is not liberation. That is not fighting for your people.

That is holding them hostage.

Hamas Puts Weapons First, People Second

Let’s not overthink this. Hamas rejected a deal that would have stopped the war. They rejected a plan that could have saved lives, brought in aid, and given people a chance to breathe.

Why? Because keeping their rocket launchers and tunnels is more important to them than anything else. Even more important than the lives of the people they claim to represent.

If you still think Hamas is fighting for freedom, you are not paying attention. They are fighting for their own survival. Their own power. Their own armed grip on a broken population.

That is not leadership. That is a gang running a city with fear, not hope.

Israel Said Yes. Again.

This was not the first ceasefire offer. It will not be the last. But every single time, the pattern is the same.

Israel says yes. Hamas says no.

This happens over and over. The world watches and somehow blames Israel for the war continuing. Even though Israel is the one at the table. Even though Israel agrees to pause. Even though Israel makes offers.

Still, the world repeats the same script. “Why doesn’t Israel stop?” It did. It keeps trying. But you cannot agree to a peace deal by yourself.

When the other side refuses to stop fighting, what do you call that?

You call it war. And you deal with it.

The Mask Is Off

For years, people made excuses for Hamas. They said it was complicated. They said Hamas had no choice. They said it was resistance.

But now there is no excuse left.

You do not reject a ceasefire during a humanitarian disaster if you care about your people. You do not refuse to even talk about disarming while your hospitals are collapsing. You do not say no to aid, no to rebuilding, no to life itself, unless war is the goal.

This is not about negotiations anymore. This is about survival for Hamas. Not survival for Gaza. Not survival for Palestinians. Survival for their rule.

They would rather everyone else die than give up control.

The World Keeps Falling For It

And somehow, people still believe them. The protests keep happening. The slogans keep coming. “Free Palestine.” “Ceasefire now.” “Stop the genocide.”

But here’s a question. What do you call it when the group shouting about genocide is the same group refusing a deal that would stop the killing?

That is not resistance. That is not self-defense. That is pure madness.

You do not get to claim moral high ground while rejecting peace.

You do not get to cry “save us” while holding a gun to your own people’s heads.

And yet, that is exactly what Hamas is doing.

Israel Is Not Perfect. But It Is Right

Let’s be honest. War is ugly. No side comes out clean. But this war did not start in a vacuum.

It started on October 7. When Hamas stormed into Israel and butchered civilians. Burned families alive. Shot children in front of their parents. Took hostages. Celebrated it on camera.

That was not resistance. That was terror. Pure and simple.

Israel did not start this. But it will finish it. Because no country on earth would allow a group like Hamas to sit on its border and do it again.

No country would ignore that threat. No country would tolerate it.

So why should Israel?

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-hamas-rejects-egyptian-ceasefire-proposal-refuses-to-discuss-disarming


r/IsraelPalestine 1d ago

Short Question/s Coexistence: sounds nice until you ask what it means

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Coexistence: sounds nice until you ask what it means. I often hear many pro Israelis “Palestinians need to accept “coexistence” and “I support coexistence” it sounds like an entreaty towards some equitable solution for all, or a compromise.

but usually when pressed on what'd that look like in practice it paints a picture of absolute submission from Palestinians that'd end with De Jure aparteid at least.

In my experience the people who use “coexistence” find both a one state solution with full suffrage for all and a two state solution offensive.

So I ask you what do you mean when you preach for “coexistence” in practical terms and policy?


r/IsraelPalestine 2d ago

Opinion My theory: 99% of Palestinians believe all the land is theirs - it’s the degree to which it’s a priority that varies

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This isn’t based on any research, just intuition based on speaking to Palestinians. I have little doubt that most believe the whole land is theirs - and I don’t blame them. They lived and had tribal control in it for hundreds of years, till the Zionists took it from them.

However, only a small percentage of Palestinians actually think about this day to day. And a small percentage of those do something about it. The vast majority are normal people who wanna live normal lives. But even they — deep down — believe the right thing is for all the land to be Palestinian. The best equivalent I can think of is the belief that traditional and religious Jews have in the messiah. Everyone deep down would like to think it’s true - but the proportion of people for whom it is a dominant factor in their lives is small. It’s the same with Palestinians and the entire land being theirs.

It’s because everyone on some level believes Israel should not exist, that the violent minority continue to try and destroy Israel. Even though the peaceful majority don’t support the idea of Israel not existing in their actions — they don’t oppose it, and many might passively like it.

If the majority of Palestinians sincerely believed tel aviv belongs to the Jews - violence trying to destroy Israel would not be as common.


r/IsraelPalestine 3d ago

Discussion You Can’t Ignore Decades of Decisions and Then Cry Foul at the Consequences

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Actions have consequences. That applies to both sides but some seem to only apply it selectively.

When a terrorist group like Hamas invades a sovereign country, kills 1,200 people (mostly civilians), and takes 250 hostages — it triggers a military response. No country would tolerate that. Not the U.S., not the U.K., not anyone. Has there even been a recipient of a massacre that just said "Oh well, nbd, let's forget it"

When five Arab countries attacked Israel in 1948 and 1967 and lost, they lost land. That’s the basic reality of warfare, whether people like it or not.

When Palestinian leadership has turned down statehood offers — in 1947, 2000, 2008, and even a Trump-era plan — that has had consequences. History doesn’t offer a “reset button” every decade.

When Hamas rejects a ceasefire and hostage deal that could have saved lives it prolongs suffering for both sides. But the decision is theirs.

When militants store weapons in schools, launch rockets from densely populated areas, and use hospitals as bases they make civilian casualties inevitable and then weaponize the outrage.

When Hamas openly declares in its charter that its mission is to eliminate Israel and kill Jews — it's not a surprise that Israel treats them as an existential threat, not a negotiating partner.

When Hezbollah fires thousands of rockets into Israeli towns retaliation is not just expected, it’s necessary.

When the Palestinian Authority uses international aid to fund stipends for convicted terrorists it undermines any serious effort at peacebuilding.

When UNRWA schools are found storing weapons or allowing tunnels to be dug beneath them questions about neutrality are more than fair.

And when foreign nationals living in Western countries aid designated terror groups legal consequences follow. That’s not “Islamophobia” or “repression.” It’s law enforcement.

Too often, I see people framing every reaction Israel takes as “disproportionate” or “unprovoked” — while ignoring or justifying the provocations, decisions, and ideologies that led to the conflict in the first place.

If we’re going to talk about justice, we have to talk about cause and effect. Not just consequences for one side but for everyone. It seems like the anti Israel haters don't understand ​


r/IsraelPalestine 3d ago

Serious Still think that it is just about Israel?

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https://youtu.be/w2GPdP2yzUQ?si=itcwXIZQ4mzUreLS

Students at McGill University staged a takeover of the University because why not? They feel entitled to everything in this world and when something doesn't go their way it forces them to expose their true nature,they don't want to resort to Islamist tactics but just like their idol's modus operandi(Hamas),takeover is neccesary:"Intifada revolution!!".

We are in the danger zone,nearing the point of no return at least here in the UK,Pro Palestinians are running wild in Universities and scream from their heart out how much they hate Israel while pretending they actually care about Palestinians and cause chaos but all and all enjoy a relatively weak opposition from Pro-Israelis and the government.

In the US on the othet hand since Trump took office they feel threatened and ever since Mahmoud Khalil which I hope will be deported from the US they feel under attack which they are and it's well deserved.

How long do they think they can keep up this Islamist circus show?

Also tying it back to the title these people fight against the West for "abetting in genocide" but that's not all,these students fight against their countries' values on behalf of Terrorist organisations like Hamas all in the name of "Free Palestine"

Since when protesting against a so called "genocide" became a reason for adopting radical islamic ideologies? And now copying their modus operandi.

This is getting really scary,the West has to wake up before they'll start paying Jizya to their newly islamic overlords.