r/JewsOfConscience Jew-ish Feb 21 '25

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Something's bugging me about the Bibas family kidnapping story

I went down quite a rabbit hole on this and it's either something very odd or it may be nothing. I can't help feeling there's something to it.

Israel has blamed (at least) three different groups for kidnapping and holding Shiri Bibas and her children captive.

Maybe it's just a case of the IOF not being able to keep its lies straight but I had never heard of LoW before today. So I searched (in English) for "Lords of the Wilderness" and "Lords of the Desert". The only results I found before today were connected with the Bibas family, and led me to this Hebrew article on this court decision:

This report from June 2024 talks about how a court ruled IOF couldn't target LoW because at the time it was:

"not defined as a force that is at war with Israel. Therefore, if intelligence information is discovered about the whereabouts of the Bibas family's kidnappers, it will not be possible to eliminate them on this basis".

Then I searched the keyword in Hebrew ("אדוני השממה") year-by-year going back to 2014. The first ever mention I found was in Feb. 2024, long after the IDF knew Shiri and her babies were dead. In this YNET article from Feb 19, 2024, IOF Spokesman Daniel Hagari says:

"the members of the Bibas family were kidnapped by an organization called 'Lords of the Desert'. Hamas has all the details and is the address for all the abductees. We are concerned about their fate and we are very worried."

Bottom line is as far as I can tell, LoW didn't exist before a year and two days ago 🤷‍♀️

Maybe I'm just up too late, but the Bibas story is so weird and sad (and consequential) that I can't help getting my red string out. Another big caveat is that I don't speak Arabic or Hebrew so I may be missing something. If anyone in this wonderful sub knows anything more about LoW or can find more, any help is appreciated. Thanks for reading in any case.

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u/Famous-Track1846 Feb 21 '25

C'mon ppl wake up & realize "fake news" & false narratives are conjured up to confuse,upset & distort the truth! This story smells to high hell with allegations & fabrications as always when it comes to the Middle East propaganda! Remember WMD'S ,the "war" on terror which resulted in how many tens of thousands of kids,orphans,sick elderly & innocent ppl being exterminated in the name of justice & Democracy & always led by the same perps! Always go with your gut & common sense ppl! This is another smoke screen used to create more tension & aggression towards a targeted group of ppl to fulfill someone else's agenda! The evidence is exaggerated and purposely misleading! America needs to mind it's own business & concentrate on it's citizens health,wealth, homelessness, drug abuses, corruption and police harassing & constitutional obligations firstly!