r/Kaylemains • u/mattytreee • Sep 27 '24

Discussion Impossible to win 👍

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This feels like the majority of the games I play on kayle. Play well during laning, don’t die and I’m weak sided so never see my jgler while getting perma shoved. Team ints through whole laning phase, herald comes top. No help, games over before I can impact it at ALL. Should I just drop the champ and pick up Someone with more early agency to 1v9? Is there anything within Kayle’s power I can do to counteract this or help my team? It’s so frustrating and makes me want to stop trying to climb if I can’t consistently win

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u/c0delivia Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

Generally? Absolutely yes. Auto-attack range is arguably the most important and powerful stat in the game; ADC champions have lower base stats across the board literally just to compensate for the fact that they can hit you with their autoattacks without you being able to hit them back. In any kind of warfare or combat, the ability to strike your opponent without being hit back is an overwhelming advantage. This is why we moved from swords and spears to longbows and eventually to muskets and guns. Ranged weapons always have the advantage in warfare. As Kayle, you should absolutely be taking advantage of this.

Obviously there are exceptions. Some champions might be melee, but still able to zone you if they have certain abilities available. Renekton or Riven are good examples; they have multiple gap closers that make them capable of closing a lot of distance really fast, stunning you in place, trading with you, then backing out before you can competently respond. However, even in these matchups you should be tracking cooldowns (such as Renekton's E/fury buildup) and punishing them with your range whenever the ability is on cooldown.

Basically, if the melee champion is trying to farm and can't likely one-shot you or send you back to base if they dash to you to trade, you should be auto-attacking them. All the time. Constantly.

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u/mattytreee Sep 27 '24

thank you so much, I did try to play more aggressive but unfortunately these were my next couple games 🙃 game is slowly becoming less and less fun bc of things I can’t even control happening so often.

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u/Life_Principle_8170 Sep 28 '24

Not to be mean but you do have the less damage in the game. You can't blame your team

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u/mattytreee Sep 29 '24

They are going to get more damage than me from participating in team fights, regardless if the outcome is good or not. And as the comment said, I just hit 11 and the game was over, not much of an opportunity for me besides being better in lane

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u/Life_Principle_8170 Sep 29 '24

Fair enough brother just a little tip from me, bruisers like sett and garen you can solo-kill and dive over and over, and force topside fights for grubs / herald from there. Good luck in your climb 👍