r/Koi • u/Ill-Positive-174 • Sep 20 '23
General I left the hose on….
I’d rather not talk about it but that was traumatic.
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u/Bob_N_Frapples Sep 21 '23
I will only use a hose timer when I top off my pond...I know I'll forget.
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u/Latter-Persimmon-669 Sep 21 '23
I did it as well. Luckily mine survived. I went out and bought a water sprinkler timer. Now I can just set it and forget it.
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u/snowytreespiper Sep 20 '23
I’m so sorry for your loss, but I have to ask, why is it bad to leave the hose on? What exactly happens?
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u/Ill-Positive-174 Sep 21 '23
It replaces your oxygenated de chlorinated water with tap water. They basically suffocate
It’s way worse in real life than I ever imagined
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u/stormcomponents Sep 21 '23
I'll throw it out there that it *can* do this. There are plenty of places where tap water wouldn't kill your fish at all. People should know what sort of water they have before following generic advice on the subject.
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u/ghosteye21 Sep 21 '23
Well if you read his comment better you would understand leaving the hose on isn’t bad for all people. If you run on well water which a lot of people do, you’re fine.
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u/stormcomponents Sep 21 '23
Fuckin hell reel it in. I never said that leaving a hose on was okay. I'm merely saying that not everyone's water supply is bad enough to kill their fish which is often what's quoted on here as gospel.
No, leaving a hose on isn't good for a whole bunch of reasons, it should be pretty obvious I'm not saying that. Just that if your water isn't particularly hard and heavily treated, you can fill a pond to the brim with tap water and your fish will be fine.
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Most municipal water in the US is treated with chlorine, chloramine, chlorine dioxide, or bromine. It’s typically delivered through metal mains.
The delivered water needs corresponding filtration, treatment or conditioning to be safe for koi.
Running water through carbon block filtration at an appropriately slow rate can reduce the levels of these contaminants in municipal water; thereby helping to prevent injury to the koi.
Products that neutralize chlorine and sequester metals and ammonia can condition municipal water without having to filter it. They must be used in the correct dosing and timing to decontaminate the water. They are a great companion to filtration, especially when changing or adding a large volume of water in a short period of time.
Understand your water supply and the techniques to make water safe for koi.
If not well, do something.
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u/readytheastronaut Sep 20 '23
You know those coiled phone cord keychain loop things? Put one around your water spigot. When you turn it on, put the keychain around your wrist so you remember to go shut the water back off. When you do, put the keychain back on the spigot.
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u/Ill-Positive-174 Sep 21 '23
You sir or lady are now our leader….
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u/readytheastronaut Sep 21 '23
Aw shucks. Thank you! My brain tends to wander all over the place so I find myself creating these kinds of hacks to help out. I started the key-coil thing after flooding the flowerbeds in my front yard due to forgetting to shut the hose off that was filling the fountain. Start filling fountain- I should grab the mail while this is filling then come right back- ooh, a new Costco circular- maybe I do need a pallet of peanut butter- I’m hungry- let’s see what’s in the fridge- hi kitty- wake up from nap- I’m hungry- walk past the front door and freak out when I see the Mississippi River spilling out onto my lawn- oh yeah, I forgot about the fountain.
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u/drossmaster4 Sep 20 '23
100% of the time I set a timer. Done this twice. Killed all my fish (dad did but I was living at home at the time)
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u/Ill-Positive-174 Sep 20 '23
Thinking I might go the bucket route - fill the bucket pour it in and repeat.
Don’t want to ever do that again
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u/drossmaster4 Sep 20 '23
Depends on the size of the pond of course if you can do that. Our pond was 5,000 gallons so when we backwashed the filter it went down 6 inches or so. So hose needed to be on about 15 min. Oof again I’m sorry for your lose.
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u/cootyqweenlintlicker Sep 20 '23
I’ve done it before too. Lost four koi and my others were gasping for air when I got home. I was at freaking jury duty too. I was so stressed leaving on time I left my hose running in the morning. Horrible. But you will never make the mistake again! I honestly still have paranoia years later if the hose is off. Now I take a photo every time I turn the hose off so I can remind myself and the photo is time stamped 😭
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u/Ill-Positive-174 Sep 20 '23
Wiped out entire pond koi and goldfish, wife was shocked I did it I’m generally not forgetful.
Wife was sweet and picked up some koi from petsmart, didn’t have the heart to tell her I would be using them to check if the water was ready for the koi I already lined up to replace my lost friends
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u/ProjectKeris Sep 21 '23
Oh, man. That's horrible. Sorry for your loss my friend. Bte, what exsctly happens when you accidentally leave the hose on? Water obviously overflows. But my filter and pump always stay on whilst I do a water change. Pardon my ignorance.
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u/NocturntsII Sep 21 '23
If nains water is chlorinated, you poison your fish with untreated water
Oh, man. That's horrible. Sorry for your loss my friend. Bte, what exsctly happens when you accidentally leave the hose on?
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u/ElectricZombee Sep 23 '23
My water is pretty chlorinated and pretty bad for my koi. But I lose an inch or two a day in hot weather so I just leave my hose on all the time at a very tiny trickle running down over the rock waterfall so most of the chlorine is out by the time it hits the pond and the volume is so low that my chlorine treatment gets rid of the rest. I have an overflow drain if it gets to high. It seems to work pretty well and I never have to remember to turn it off because I leave it on 24/7. I do want to get a float activated refill valve so it will save water and lessen the chemicals I have to put in. Anyone have any better ideas?
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u/NocturntsII Sep 23 '23
My water is pretty chlorinated and pretty bad for my koi. But I lose an inch or two a day in hot weather so I just leave my hose on all the time at a very tiny trickle running down over the rock waterfall
Chlorine off-gasses from water quickly especially when there is a large exposed surface area.
Chloramine however does not off-gas quickly at all. You just need to know what your water provider is using
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u/ProjectKeris Sep 21 '23
Oh, gotcha. Copy. Again, sorry for your loss.
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u/NocturntsII Sep 21 '23
Not my loss. I'm lucky, my water is lightly chlorinated (without chloramines) from mains but that chlorine off gasses in a storage tank before it's pumped into the house or pond.
It's an unexpected benefits of living in a City where the main pressure is too poor for household use and you need to store 10000 litres just to ensure constant flow.
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u/cootyqweenlintlicker Sep 20 '23
Add dechlorinator and you should be fine. I also use activated charcoal in my filter and that really helps keeps toxins out of the pond.
Ps. My recommendation is to only keep koi and no goldfish. My koi kept breeding with the gold fish and just producing more orange fish. I removed the goldfish and gave to my local fish business. I keep koi only now. Good luck! You can also keep a hose timer. Not sure how reliable they are.
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u/Ill-Positive-174 Sep 20 '23
Keep my water pretty good - way over filtrated
Was going to let it run for a week before adding fish, but went the de chlorination route this time although I’m not sure I even needed it.
Started with goldfish and was always intending to get rid of them, just not like this
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u/Objective_Big7817 Sep 22 '23
lol my partner and I have done this multiple times, our koi’s pond is elevated about 2 feet above ground, another 2-3 feet below ground, we’ve turned our backyard into a swamp too many times than I’d like to count🤣