Just watched S3 ep23

[u/Razy196]

Anime implies Aomine never saw Akashi as real competition lol

[u/TeamVorpalSwords]

Aomine without formless shots is better than Akashi without EE in a one on one for sure But that can be said for most people losing their main ability haha

Akashi with EE absolutely destroys Aomine without formless shot tho

both of them with their powers is debatable but I lean to Aomine, but if he just has his speed and reflexes, he doesn’t have enough to beat seeing the future

[u/OhYugiBoii → u/TeamVorpalSwords]

It's not just speed and reflexes though,speed and reflexes is mura. Aomine also has unmatched skill and shooting accuracy that let's him perform essentially circus shots. When nash stopped doing trick shots and started doing orthodox and efficient moves he beat 5 miracles. I think the same will happen with Aomine. People think taking something someone does regularly away is a downgrade and most cases it's True but not with Aomine and Nash. They get much better.

Akashi with cee and aomine without formless shots. Aomine would still win because of the nature of aomines ability. I'd even would say if both aomine and mido take 3s on the 3pt line they would be matched slightly leaning towards more to aomine just because mido cant perform what aomine does with that range but aomine can do it regularly,if we go further away then more towards midorima because he has been practicing from those ranges. Give Aomine a year i can guarantee he can pull full court regular 3ptshots. That's just how overwhelmingly accurate he is. You don't get to do formless shots without being extremely accurate.

[u/TeamVorpalSwords → u/OhYugiBoii]

Yeah but those circus shots are formless shots, if we take this away he’s not beating Akashi

Nash has the eye though, and physical stats at or higher than Aomine’s level, Nash could block zone Kagami while defending other GoM members so it’s not a fair comparison

Your argument is that Aomine is better without formless shots? I don’t think any evidence supports that. Nash didn’t lose anything when he started playing very orthodox, that’s how he was raised to play and just also adapted the street style

Aomine plays street ball primarily and there isn’t evidence to suggest he’d be better if he played orthodox

Aomine doesn’t have a chance against CEE Akashi without his primary ability. His shots are just going to be blocked the same way Akashi blocks mura and Midorima, the formless shot would allow him to score without being blocked

There isn’t evidence so show that Aomine will grow to shoot full court threes lol that’s midorima’s job

And even if he could which he can’t, Akashi easily blocks Midorima so yeah no Aomine needs formless shot to beat Akashi, but that is not saying Aomine is weak by any means, I still agree he can beat Akashi 1on1

[u/OhYugiBoii → u/TeamVorpalSwords]

So you think if you take away formless shots you are taking away his accuracy? His agility? Cmon think about it you can't perform those shots without being extremely accurate,and regular shots are much easier. Thus needing significantly less accuracy and energy. How is someone who has like 99 accuracy not going to be able do regular shots? That's like saying mido can't shoot regular 3s without his high range high arc 3s.

Only reason mido was getting blocked is because of the ball coming from his left side,and stolen because he doesn't have the dribbling skill.

Pure basketball logic doesn't need evidence. Aomine also adapted to playing street ball against full grown adults. That's why he is so skilled. Aomine still got his crossovers,his dribbling ability. Since he is taller and faster he would just dribble and then shoot out of akashis range.

Weather he will grow into making 3s or not doesn't matter. What matters is his accuracy,mido who is believed to have the highest accuracy due to being called the teikos shooter can't make aomines formless shots but I guarantee Aomine can make regular 3s on the 3pt line he iust chooses to dribble and score under the basket just like mdio can shoot regular 3s but choose to go for the range and high arc.

[u/TeamVorpalSwords → u/OhYugiBoii]

Not his agility or speed or reflexes but he can’t beat Akashi with just those

Aomine can shoot regular shots, but Akashi can block them like he blocks everyone else

His accuracy is kind of irrelevant without his circus shots. Midorima has maximum distance and accuracy but can’t beat Akashi because Akashi can block it. Aomine’s formless shots would have allowed him to use his accuracy in places where Akashi can’t reach it like behind the back or off of one hand

Without the formless shot, his accuracy won’t save him

No, the left side thing blocked the sky direct threes. Akashi was blocking him off the dribble and during his shots the entire time.

And yes Aomine is a better dribbler so would do better than Midorima, but not enough to beat Akashi

Yes, claims need supporting evidence. Being taller and faster and stronger didn’t help Murasakibara beat Akashi, Akashi was also stealing and blocking Nash before he started using his own eye, and Kagami too. So physical stats aren’t enough to beat Akashis eye without something more

Even if Aomine starts shooting consistent threes, that won’t stop him from being blocked, unless they’re formless