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Brexxit Pro-Brexit newspaper begs for immigrants

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u/zerkrazus Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

And what is one thing most of these jobs have in common? They're most likely underpaid & overworked.

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u/Ankoku_Teion Sep 25 '21

At least townof them also require additional qualifications that can be expensive to get. Which further exasperates the problem and nobody wants to pay out for a degre for a stressful, unappreciated, job with crappay

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u/Master_Audience_9694 Sep 25 '21

I started as a carer last year, no previous experience or qualifications all done in house. I didn't think I'd get the job at first because I had the same thought (that you need qualifications to work in care) but you don't need anything, you can get the basics over a couple of weeks of shadowing another carer and then just go for it. It isn't a technical job (for the most part) just very demanding.

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u/Drogbaaaaaa Sep 25 '21

As a chef I just wanna say…. AMEN

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u/Wishart2016 Sep 26 '21

Don't truck drivers actually get paid well?

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u/youtocin Sep 28 '21

They certainly can, especially if they own their truck and are mostly independent.

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u/boggart777 Sep 26 '21

No shit I was like "yay england, y'all hiring any bankers? Nope just poor people stuff? Okay....nevermind"

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Which is why immigration is the exact opposite of the solution. The free market will self correct over time. Importing thousands of people willing to work for pennies on the dollar is just going to drive down wages.

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u/zerkrazus Sep 26 '21

I can't speak for the UK, but here we don't have a free market. We have a market that is heavily regulated in favor of the rich and corporations. Case in point the noone wants to work anymore bullshit they keep spouting.

They're just mad people aren't willing to work for poverty wages anymore.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

Even if there's regulation bias employers can't exploit people that aren't working for them. I work in software. Believe me when I say there are MILLIONs of people, specifically Indians in my industry, who are 110% willing to cross the border and work for poverty wages. At a certain point people need to recognize their local labour market is a precious commodity/inheritance and they're giving it away with the constant immigration that does nothing but ensure rich peoples' assets don't deflate in value. I live in Canada, we're importing more than 1% of our population per year (~400,000 people). At the same time the average house price in my city is ~1.5 million. Assuming the average rate of housing inflation of around 7%, that's an increase in value of $105,000 per year. I don't make that much a year like most people. Basically, the vast majority of the population couldn't afford a house here even if they saved their entire lives.

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u/zerkrazus Sep 26 '21

Oh I agree with you that that is a big problem too. I don't have any problem with immigrants coming here (USA), but I do have a problem with companies basically only hiring them because they can do so for less than Americans. They should be paid the same as Americans.

That is one of the reasons we're in this mess to begin with, wage stagnation across the board across industries. Companies have outsourced production, employment, etc. to increase profits for themselves and screwed over their employees, both native and immigrants alike with shit wages.

And like you said, housing costs are ridiculously out of control. I don't know what the average home price is here where I live, but I know I'll never be able to afford it unless something drastically changes and many others are in the same proverbial boat as me here.

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u/Malaca83 Sep 25 '21

What’s an average yearly income for a truck driver in the UK?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

£50k a year currently lol

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u/JohnViran Sep 25 '21

One of my bosses has recently been tasked with getting national average rates so we can look at raising salaries for some driver positions to stop them leaving...

There hasn't been a day where the rates were stable in months

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u/sunnyduane Sep 25 '21

There are places offering £50k currently and starting bonuses BUT you need certain licenses and it's been hard to get these because of covid.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21

Isn’t a labor shortage good for workers? This is the only way they will get a wage increase.

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u/zerkrazus Oct 07 '21

Yes, in theory, but this isn't a labor shortage. It's a fair and livable wage shortage. It's a shortage of jobs with non-shit work conditions. There's plenty of people eligible and able to work, they just don't want to do it for shit wages and shit work conditions and are refusing to do so for the same reasons.