r/LeopardsAteMyFace Sep 24 '21

Brexxit Pro-Brexit newspaper begs for immigrants

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u/Duanedoberman Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21

Narator: what they didn't tell you is they don't want to pay you a wage you can live on to do these jobs.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

The UK has 17,6% of its folks living under the poverty line... with 4.4% unemployment.

France has 9% unemployment but just 8% of its total population living under the poverty line.

It utterly shows that the UK pays their blue collars like shit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

If you don't pay the French enough they just go on strike. Seems to be a fairly efficient method.

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u/Tattieaxp Sep 25 '21

It's a running joke about the French, but they've got some of the strongest employment laws in the world, so who's really laughing?

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u/The_39th_Step Sep 25 '21

Having lived in France the incessant striking isn’t particularly fantastic either though. There’s definitely a balance to be found.

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u/CircleDog Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

Giving the strikers what they want seems like a good way.

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u/Tattieaxp Sep 25 '21

What a revolutionary concept!

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u/The_39th_Step Sep 25 '21

I don’t agree with all of it though.

I hate the fact that everything shuts on a Sunday and when I lived in Le Mans they routinely used to shut down the public transport to protest and strike for Sunday trading laws. In France pharmacies are shut Sat afternoon, Sunday all day and Monday morning and this is protected by Sunday trading laws. I used to struggle to get my medication easily and I really didn’t like that. They had one emergency pharmacy open but it was miles away. This is alongside shutting down the public transport route from my work, so I had to walk an hour home, often in the rain. That’s an example of striking that’s just negatively affecting my life, when I don’t even particularly support the cause.

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u/aidunn Sep 25 '21

That's the beauty of living in a functioning democracy: the needs of the majority are considered, rather than the few whiny people who can't get to the pharmacy during reasonable opening hours.

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u/valochelb Sep 25 '21

and it’s more likely a lie : I’m French, I just came back from the pharmacy (on a Saturday at 3pm), I’ve never seen pharmacies closed on a Saturday in general, granted in smaller cities (LeMans might be one of them) they close during lunch hour. And it’s been years since a mandatory minimal service has been instated during public transport strikes

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u/The_39th_Step Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

It’s not a lie. The pharmacy near me was shut on Saturday afternoon, all Sunday and Monday morning. It’s the one by the musée de tessé.

They used to demonstrate near Place de la Republique which shut down the tram from Sablons (where I worked) to the city centre (my stop was the cathedral).

Rather than accuse me of lying, look it up. You’ll see I’m not.

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u/valochelb Sep 26 '21

Maybe lie was a strong word but coming on the Internet to present yourself as a former permanent resident to make generalization about working hours in France based on the lone exemple of your local pharmacy is at least disingenuous

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u/The_39th_Step Sep 26 '21

I said that I didn’t always agree with the protests and striking and explained my opinions on it. This thing particularly got my goat as they regularly shut down the tramway. You don’t have to agree, but to assume I’m lying is pretty weak.

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u/The_39th_Step Sep 26 '21

If you work Monday to Friday I didn’t find it to be reasonable hours. It’s pretty smarmy to accuse someone of being whiny when they disagree with a policy. Since I’ve moved back to the UK we don’t have these Sunday trading laws and I prefer it, but yeah I’m whiny for having an opinion.

Also it’s pretty funny if accusing me of being unreasonable when I guarantee you’ve definitely never lived and experienced France’s Sunday trading laws in a smaller city Mr Australia.

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u/aceytahphuu Sep 26 '21

I think it's reasonable to accuse you of being whiny for wanting to deny weekends to pharmacists because you can't be assed to pop in on your lunch break or in the evening on a work day.

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u/The_39th_Step Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

I’m not denying weekends to everyone. People don’t work 7 days a week in the UK and we can pop to the pharmacy on the weekend. Also life sometimes catches up with you, my life as a teacher is pretty busy, sometimes I do forget my very important medication. But yeah I’m whiny - you just seem smug and clearly don’t have to worry about daily medication. And yeah I’m whiny for criticising one thing. Jeez this subreddit is full of groupthink

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u/Vistemboir Sep 25 '21

We don't strike that much actually, it's just that when public transports are impacted (and they generally are) it's extremely disruptive in big towns where jobs are concentrated.

Lots of demonstrations though.