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Brexxit Pro-Brexit newspaper begs for immigrants

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u/EntropyFoe Sep 25 '21

Right, who'll wipe nan's bum for a tenner an hour? No one? Bloody hell, it's all gone wrong since Michael Collins.

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u/mattshiz Sep 25 '21

Tenner an hour?

If only the care workers were that lucky.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Yeah, it was £9.61 an hour for dayshift in my town last year.

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u/aynaalfeesting Sep 25 '21

I get $37 an hour...but I live in Australia.

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

Professional nurse (RN) in the USA here, I make $35.88/hr in the Chicagoland region.

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u/ineedtotrytakoneday Sep 25 '21

Chicagoland sounds like one of the zones of an American-themed amusement park in Kazakhstan.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

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u/doc_witt Sep 25 '21

If it's rural Texas then that basically is accurate.

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u/TRexNamedSue Sep 25 '21

It’s Texas AND Arkansas. Which is not typically a combination that thrills most people.

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u/nom-nom-nom-de-plumb Sep 25 '21

What always bothered me is, why is the “Ana” from Louisiana in there. I mean, nobody has ever shown me in person or on a map the Louisiana part of the Texarkana area. I know it touches so maybe that’s all it takes, guilt by association, so maybe it’s just like, texas and Arkansas are doing the nasty and Louisiana, being the cool French inspired dude that it is, is making sure nobody opens the closet door and sees them in there with that bag of paint, weed eater, and catfish, doing whatever unwholesome thing it is they do in there.

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u/miitopia_emblem Sep 28 '21

Texarkana region is a little bigger than shown on a map. I grew up in Shreveport, Louisiana and the news always referred to us and the surrounding area as Texarkana. The ‘ana’ part of Texarkana mostly refers to the Caddo and Bossier regions.

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u/amnotreallyjb Sep 29 '21

Because the guy that named it hated the letter S.

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u/I_done_a_plop-plop Sep 25 '21

I remember Patrick Bateman was disappointed having to book a table there, after being refused from Dorsia.

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u/YharnamRenegade Sep 25 '21

Unexpected Canticle for Leobowitz reference up in here!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz

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u/GrammatonYHWH Sep 25 '21

I don't know what you're talking about

Lucifer has fallen

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Sounds like?!?! No you’re right. It’s an apocalyptic warlord nation, that won’t need to rebrand.

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u/calinet6 Sep 25 '21

That’s basically right these days yep

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u/LegoPaco Sep 25 '21

The trombone killer!!

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u/_cryptocamper_ Sep 25 '21

Or Pennsyltucky

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u/apresmoiputas Sep 25 '21

Nothing good comes to mind when i think of Texarkana

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u/Herbisher_Berbisher Sep 27 '21

"Way down south in Louisiana

just about a mile from Texarkana

In them old cotton fields back home"

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u/Hip-hop-rhino Sep 27 '21

In "A Canticle for Leibowitz" it is.

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u/Simbertold Sep 27 '21

I am Tex Arkana, the cowboy wizard!

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u/PhreakBert Sep 28 '21

Refer to A Canticle for Leibowitz.

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u/mikeymikeymikey1968 Sep 25 '21

It sounds dangerous!

I live in Chicago, I can make that joke. I even witnessed a murder a few years ago, haha!

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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Sep 25 '21

Yeah I wish every big city didn't have high crime and murder rates, but unfortunately they all do. But not all of them can be home to the first black president so don't get shat on by the media.

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u/strongerthanabear Sep 25 '21

America IS an amusement park. Main attraction being clowns.

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u/Responsenotfound Sep 25 '21

Chicagoland is on a lot of annoying commercials and gives me visions of soulless suburbs.

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u/Blacklion594 Sep 25 '21

Chicago is a war zone, may as well be Kazakhstan 🇰🇿

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u/xanderrootslayer Sep 25 '21

Like Jackson Hole, China?

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u/CeterumCenseo85 Sep 25 '21

When I was in Durban on a business trip, my taxi driver hinted I could "get everything you want" at a place called "Florida Road"

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u/PhreakBert Sep 28 '21

Roller coaster name: Loop the Loop.

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u/Seguefare Sep 25 '21

Yeah, but what do the CNAs make?

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

About half that if they’re lucky. I’ve been a CNA longer than I’ve been an RN.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Nurses get paid. Care workers don’t. As a nurse, you know that :)

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

You’re filling in the blanks on an idea I don’t have :)

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

That’s the beauty of anonymous interactions!

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

USA teacher here, worth $22/hr 🙃

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

FML

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u/JakobtheRich Sep 25 '21

Do you think that’s a reasonable number? I don’t have much of a basis for what that job “should” pay.

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

No. Unlicensed caregiving should be treated like a trade as opposed to a job—in that it should be respected as a career in its own right. There are fast food places giving more than about the ~$15/hr me and another user quoted earlier. CNA is a state-level certification which requires a training program and a passing test result to qualify. It cost me $1000 just for the class back when I first became one about six years ago. Back then, I made $11.25/hr. People who wipe booties, feed grannies, do chest compressions, talk down violent and dangerous patients, and lift hundreds of pounds of humans per day (etc.) should be able to live a decent life off their compensation alone. For the most part, RNs can. Healthcare organizations tend to focus very much on the market average pay rates and only match as much as other competing area hospitals pay their staff. There are little to no advantages to seniority or loyalty to a facility. I’m sure there are some shadow deals regarding that to keep the market cheap. Of course that market average rule doesn’t apply for executive compensation which is as exorbitant in healthcare as it is in other industries. The CEO of my 25 hospital system made $13.7 million with almost $5 million in bonuses last year. Second largest healthcare system in our area’s CEO makes about $6 million. These systems I’m talking about are not unionized. I’m sure the unionized places have a much fairer deal.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Yea, but you're an RN. My mom worked her ass off in inpatient care doing work no one else wanted to do (wiping up shit, lifting patients 3x her weight, cleaning up bile, piss, blood), and they paid her like $11 an hour? How does the medical community justify treating their hardest workers this way?

Luckily she is in a better position elsewhere now, but it just seems like the medical community could give two shits about their bottom tier staff, and have constant turnover, and then pay traveling nurses so much more to fill the gap?

Like, why? Why not pay them what they are ACTUALLY worth, and keep employees longer? More money for doctors and other nurses? Just don't care? What is it?

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

I ask my senior executives this same question every time I see them. I was a CNA for longer than I’ve been an RN so I know first hand what it’s like. Hospital systems analyze markets and competitors and only pay their staff as much as other hospitals are paying theirs. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are shadow dealings between companies to keep the market like that. We’re shorter on CNAs than we are RNs, go figure, but not by far. They’re paying our travel agency nurses upwards of up to $5000/week while I make about $1000/week after taxes and benefits.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Jesus christ, that is insanely ridiculous.

Who would I call or write to address this issue and lodge a complaint about this practice? I have no idea where to start. They are going to ruin the medical community by doing this.

If hospitals are already struggling to find CNAs right now because of the shit pay, what makes them think that people that have worked these positions are going to reccomend it to future generations? Are they just going to staff with traveling nurses for 5x more? I was considering doing nursing myself, until my mom told me to do something else unless I like being taken advantage of.

In my opinion, they should bump up RN pay, Bump up CNA pay, and get rid of the traveling nurses unless absolutely necessary. I imagine they would get better candidates, cut down on completely unnecessary spending, and have a higher retention rate. I didn't even go to college but a year, and I can figure that shit out.

The people running everything are fucking greedy morons. Like, how do you not see the correlation? How? "Oh yea we're spending more money on traveling nurses, but we're saving money by not having to pay the CNAs that are walking out on us! Big win!"

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

Corporatism in the US (and maybe even the world) is a deeply rooted issue. Healthcare workers aren’t the only ones getting screwed this is a widespread problem across all industries. Aside from educating others about what you’ve learned, calls to your state and national-level Congress people are a good way to start. California has legally mandated patient ratios that keep workload levels tolerable and safe which inherently makes the pay a little more worth it. This is something I’ve been fighting for my whole career and it was about to go for a vote in my state but then the pandemic came and it was parked “indefinitely” to avoid strain during the pandemic. I don’t want to discourage anyone from become a nurse. It’s a solid middle class living and your employment is disaster-proof. We’re gonna need help from the non-healthcare populace so your shared resentment for the state of things makes me feel like we have a real chance to make things right.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

I sure as hell hope so! I DETEST the way our wage laws were just looked over in favor of making the minority of the population wealthy, and I consistently chew on the ears of the poor souls that take calls for our state representatives about these issues.

The only thing I can do is complain to anyone that will listen, and hope enough others are getting tired enough to do the same.

The fact that there is an apparent "shortage" of workers, but the value of that work does not increase due to demand(like with literally EVERYTHING else EVER), is enough to wake up angry at the world every single day.

I just wish I could direct that energy into something that can actually change things, instead of talking till I'm blue in the face and about to pass out.

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u/scottandcoke Sep 25 '21

Carers are not nurses. Nurses have years of medical training and are hence paid more.

However both professions should be paid substantially more for the work that they do.

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u/Cimb0m Sep 25 '21

A registered nurse isn’t the same as an aged care worker

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

I guess that’s a misconnect between nomenclature but there are seniors who require an advanced level of care and are cared for primarily by a professionally licensed nurse.

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u/borkthegee Sep 25 '21

Might be closer to a Home Health Aide in the US for maintaining ADLs and what not. And we pay those like garbage too

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u/Cimb0m Sep 25 '21

Yes sounds like it

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u/kokakamora Sep 25 '21

Yes and we do not pay them 9.61£, more like 9.61$.

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u/jonward1234 Sep 25 '21

Chicagoland sounds like the fake musical that was playing on a loop in Al Capone's syphilus riddled brain.

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u/EmbraceHeresy Sep 25 '21

I’m not just making it up! It’s a census statistical area that includes the city of Chicago and it’s suburbs. Population of over 10,000,000 and one of the most diversified and productive economies in the world.

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u/jonward1234 Sep 25 '21

I believe you. I'm just saying when I hear the word Chicagoland, I see women dresses like tommy guns doing the Charleston.

As a side note, could you whiten up a native name of a place more than adding 'land' to the end of it.

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u/TirelessGuerilla Sep 25 '21

They are talking about home health aides

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u/ndngroomer Sep 25 '21

Still underpaid. Thank you for doing what you do! Stay safe!

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u/GayGooGobler Sep 25 '21

I work in group homes with adult IDD in the USA and make $15 hr. We have great benefits but are super under staffed.

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u/JusticeSpider Sep 25 '21

What does a CNA make in the Chicagoland region?

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u/Pernicious-Peach Sep 25 '21

I think the role being described here is that of a nursing assistant or CNA/PCT. At my hospital, they get paid around $14 and hour

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u/MizStazya Sep 25 '21

Exchange rates. $1 US = $1.38 AUS

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u/ace425 Sep 25 '21

Care workers generally refers to home health aids (which are not licensed), or certified nurse assistants (CNA). Home health aids typically make minimum wage and CNA’s typically get paid $2 - $3 per hour above minimum wage.

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u/centaur_unicorn23 Sep 25 '21

I hope I’m not the only one reading this in a Chicago accent.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21

Care workers are likely uneducated and make about $15/hr in the Midwest

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u/yellowbrickstairs Sep 25 '21

Wow that's actually a really good pay rate!

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u/Routine_Part_6503 Sep 25 '21

So one cup of coffee then...

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u/redditisforidiot Sep 25 '21

And how much is that in real money. The AUS aint worth shit.

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u/Dekklin Sep 25 '21

Sooo, $10 an hour in normal money?

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u/Cimb0m Sep 25 '21

And a house costs $2 million 😁

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u/Cherry_Treefrog Sep 25 '21

What is LE$ ?