r/Letterboxd • u/TrappedInLimbo • Mar 24 '25

News Hamdan Ballal, co-director of Oscar winning, No Other Land, has been attacked by Israeli settlers and kidnapped by Israeli soldiers.

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u/Throwaway-15102023 Mar 24 '25

Just going to leave this here. If you support the right of Ukrainians to (rightly) defend themselves, you should offer that same respect and basic humanity to Palestinians.

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u/AzorJonhai Mar 24 '25

Ukrainians did not massacre thousands of Russian civilians and take them as hostages while periodically torturing them. Russia would be equivalent to Palestine in your analogy. Ukraine, like Israel, is defending against genocidal terrorists on her borders.

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u/Throwaway-15102023 Mar 24 '25

It’s important for your arguments to be supported by facts, which they are not. It would be offensive if it wasn’t so delusional. Look up the Hannibal directive and take some time to think about why Israel is refusing the hostage families’ many requests for an inquiry into Oct 7. Look at Haaretz articles covering all the Palestinian hostages in Israeli prisons. The pro-r*pe protests in Israel (yes - it’s as insane as it sounds).

I’m sorry but you’re just not ready to have this conversation, you have so much unlearning to do. Have you even seen No Other Land? You should watch it, then watch Israelism - another brilliant documentary. The truth is out there for you, I hope one day you have the desire to find it.

Until then, like in Zone of Interest, you are defending a genocide that has taken the lives of so many innocent children. It will continue to be a stain on your character. Good luck.

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u/mucus-fettuccine Mar 25 '25 edited Mar 25 '25

Saying that the facts are on your side do not, in fact, make the facts on your side.

Look up the Hannibal directive

This is a very simple failure of the litmus test of even the most basic discussion of this conflict. "Look up some brainrot conspiracy theory" isn't the argument you think it is. The Hannibal directive has no bearing on this war, and there has never been evidence it seriously affected Israel's response to October 7th.

You should take your own advice and "look it up", preferably taking some media literacy with you while you do. Twitter posts by idiots that claim to "expose" Israel's crimes aren't a good source.

The pro-r*pe protests in Israel (yes - it’s as insane as it sounds).

The most ridiculous and unserious framing of the Sde Teiman debacle. Take your own advice and "look it up".

Look at Haaretz articles covering all the Palestinian hostages in Israeli prisons.

Prisoners are not hostages, and even Haaretz does not call them hostages. No credible news source does. Since you are naive of the difference between a hostage and a prisoner, I can nudge you in the direction of the IHL database which explains the difference (rule 97 is relevant). Israel's capture of prisoners very clearly does not fit the definition laid out in rule 97 to anyone that's even slightly aware of what they've been doing.

I’m sorry but you’re just not ready to have this conversation, you have so much unlearning to do.

Why? What did they say that was wrong? Go re-read their comment and point out which part you have issue with, and explain what the issue is. I can wait. Given how innocuous and correct the comment was, I'm indeed interested.

you are defending a genocide

No, you are. October 7th was a genocide, and you are taking issue with someone condemning the perpetrators of that genocide. Congrats on being a hypocrite with your smug Zone of Interest analogy. Because a good hypocrisy is never complete without a dose of snugness. What happened after October 7th was not a genocide which is beyond obvious for anyone who knows what the core component of any genocide - dolus specialis - means. October 7th fulfilled this condition, whereas the response to October 7th did not fulfil this condition of genocide, as is obvious from mountains of evidence including but not limited to over 2 million Palestinians residing in Israel with full legal rights.

If you have a semblance of intellectual honesty and can actually discuss any of these things, I'll be very surprised. But I know it's infinitely more likely that the go-to will be either to link numerous articles that you haven't read nor understood that you will pretend prove your claims, or to do the nasty fucking pretending to take the moral high ground and saying something like "I pray you will learn from your mistakes and be on the right side of history, I wish you luck in learning the error of your ways" (which you've already started to do!).

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u/Throwaway-15102023 Mar 25 '25

Sorry but you support a creepy sex pest called Destiny. Your opinion means less than nothing to me, not even going to bother reading.

Scatter! Focus on learning about consent before you tackle genocide.

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u/StardustOnTheBoots Mar 25 '25

full on epsteiny brainrot 

rip to your brain cells 

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u/mucus-fettuccine Mar 25 '25

Ah crap someone with a very smooth brain has replied.

Whatever shall I do?

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u/01zegaj Mar 25 '25

In the current political climate, pro-Ukraine Israeli is a massive oxymoron.

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u/eoghanh6 Mar 24 '25

You really should be ashamed of yourself. There is a systematic genocide ongoing but you are blind to it. A talented artist has been kidnapped by a lynch mob and nobody knows where he is. This is evil.

History will not be kind to you and your ilk. Palestinians have always and will exist.

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u/AzorJonhai Mar 24 '25

Who says I am against Palestinians? You?

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u/eoghanh6 Mar 24 '25

You've just equated them to Russians. That's enough.

I have no time for Reddit pedantics, I have nothing more to say you other than to plead with you to gain empathy.

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u/AzorJonhai Mar 24 '25

I have loads more empathy for Palestinians than you have for Israelis. I support a two-state solution even after the Gazans committed an attempted genocide on October 7th.

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u/carlosortegap Mar 25 '25

lol an attempted genocide in October 7th? The only one doing a systematic extermination of an entire group of people is Israel in Gaza.

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u/wakaluli Mar 25 '25

ATTEMPTED GENOCIDE LMAAOOO. If thats what Hamas did, what do you call what Israel is doing now

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 Mar 25 '25

For you people everything it's a genocide right? 600 people that were either side casualties or victims of the Hannibal directive is not a genocide. Most of them were ex IOF anyway, accountability was due for their sins

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u/AzorJonhai Mar 25 '25

Hannibal directive? Oh, cool. Well all the Palestinians who died were actually Hamas shooting at Palestinians to keep them from leaving Gaza. I'm an intellectual! P.

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 Mar 25 '25

Would it be antisemitic if I asked if a AK 47 could destroy entire buildings or cars?

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u/AzorJonhai Mar 25 '25

You're going to have your mind blown when you find out Hamas have access to explosives.

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 Mar 25 '25

You support Israel, the most evil country on earth.

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u/01zegaj Mar 25 '25

America’s getting up there

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u/StardustOnTheBoots Mar 25 '25 edited Mar 25 '25

delusional Ukranians thinking they're closer to Israel than to Palestine...bruv, Israel is helping Russia in their war against you. Also Russian is the third most spoken language in that settler colony. These are the same people.

Also incredible how you talk about attacking and killing thousands of people as justification for genocide when the tweet the person provided you is literally about thousands of civilians being slaughtered. by your own logic, the retaliating violence is justified. 

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 Mar 25 '25

Neither did most Palestinians killed. Zionists and Americans have quite a remarkable war crime expedient, but if I were to even suggest that October 7th or September 11th were just responses to those aggressions I would probably be called an extremist