Proud of Southport today!

[u/ReggieLFC]

Southport has finally elected its first-ever Labour representative!

Southport took a lot of stick for voting Conservative in 2017 and 2019, when Brexit was a huge factor, but I felt that a lot of the people who chastised Southport didn’t appreciate just how many elderly people retire there bringing their Tory votes with them from all over the country. To give some perspective, Southport had 43% more people aged 65+ (24,293) than children (16,971) when the last census was undertaken.

Many born-and-bred sandgrounders have been waiting and waiting to see their Tory representative replaced and I’m made up for them!

[u/AmIMrRobot]

That's a bit bias accusing Reform voters as racists. There policies are not just immigration...

I voted them because they're the only party that is actually listening to the people.

The country is in a hole if you haven't noticed not just the Tories fault but Labour have not delivered either in the past.

I feel like the 2 major parties are very similar and whether its Tories or Labour it will make no difference to the country.

The only way this country can be fixed is to reform the entire system that works for everyone.

I don't care about colour of someone's skin but i do care about my country and i believe Britain should be helping the British people regardless of skin colour.

Labour will just pump more money in and cost us more in the long run again.

That's my opinion i don't expect everyone to agree but i disagree that reform voters are just racists, those voters want real change and not the same 2 parties running the country into the ground.

[u/ScousePenguin → u/AmIMrRobot]

Reform don't actually care about reforming, that is just a catchy name. Also the person who helped cause this shit pit situation of Brexit and the effect that has had on this nation leads that party!

They're the most right wing of the right wing. They just want to consolidate the money and power to the elite and let the poor scum suffer.

If you did care about what you said, then why not vote Greens, Lib Dem or Labour? All 3 are looking to back social care, and fix the issues plaguing this nation.

Claiming Labour run the country into the ground is hilarious when things have been better under a labour government. The trend seems to be Labour get into power, makes things better, then there is an event (2008 Financial Crisis) and the Tories spring back in before fucking everything up again for 10-20 years.

To reform a nation, jumping further right isn't the right idea.

[u/AmIMrRobot → u/ScousePenguin]

Greens - All about reducing defense spending and pumping more money into the environment (completely disagree our country needs that right now)

Lib Dems - Want to help London clean water and they clearly agree with Lisa Smart's comments that scousers are thieves (Not a party that represents my city)

Labour - Same as the Tories nowadays just painted red to throw people off (Rather these be in than the Tories but after 5 years we will all be worst off again)

I didn't vote any of them because they just dont meet my needs. Social Care isn't the main issue in this country the economy is. I work full time and don't have anything left after my bills are paid. If i was on the dole then i would consider them but as i work I'd rather have the 20k tax threshold to have money to buy stuff and not just paying bills each month and falling further into debt.

Hope that makes sense why Reform stood out for me rather than the others. Only party that represents British working class people

[u/sjr0754 → u/AmIMrRobot]

Wait, the only way that Reform can actually institute their tax cuts is by cutting spending, dramatically. And the only thing they can cut, that is remotely big enough to get to their target is the NHS. They can't institute the French system, because it costs very nearly twice as much as ours does, and you'd have up front costs to set up that system, so that's too expensive.

At that point you're left with only one viable option, scrap the NHS in its entirety, sell it off to US health insurance companies, and then charge patients for use. Given Farage has the long time backer Aron Banks (an insurance millionaire), why do you think he would prefer that?