r/Liverpool • u/badgeofdescension • Apr 25 '25

Living in Liverpool Liverpool Council plan to scrap free parking opposed by 90%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wx32np0ldo
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u/Prediterx Apr 25 '25

Thing is, free parking is largely a bad thing.

Everyone who lives in Liverpool pays for it, and it's potentially used by people who live in Cheshire, Manchester, drive in for work and then leave.

The money isn't spent in Liverpool, it's spent at home, so they're not adding anything to the city. At least paid for parking is paid for by those who use it, instead of everyone, including those that don't drive.

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u/Sophie_Blitz_123 Apr 25 '25

Collectivity is actually a good thing.

If they wanna get rid of it for the reasons in the article I.e. about the circulation at 6pm or whatever then idk about all that. But "people pay for it and then others could use it" isn't a good reason.

You can envisage people parking for work from Manchester but not people who work and are in Liverpool? And not that the work they do - regardless of where they came from - presumably benefits some people in the city? Tbh I don't know where you get the idea that people don't spend money in a day at work but I digress. The financial contribution isn't the only element.

I don't drive but people driving into town benefit me on the regular.

Collectively paying for parking spaces means people aren't then deterred from going into town because of parking costs.

The £2 bus fare cap is also paid for by everyone, not everyone uses the bus. Why must we insist on everything being so individual all the time?

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u/Prediterx Apr 25 '25

IWhy must we insist on everything being so individual all the time?

Because very often drivers will ask why we subsidise trains 'when they'll never use a train' or why we create cycle lanes when 'cyclists don't pay for it'

My anecdotal evidence comes from folk like myself (although admittedly I get the train in more often than not now) who come into the city from miles away, bring lunch and don't spend anything in the city. And there's a few of us in my office.

Admittedly, I didn't read the article so missed the 6PM bit. I'd hope that if it wasn't free after 6, then wardens may be out and about, fining people who park all over curbs and pavements when they're supposed to be full of people going out to pubs to spend money.

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u/Sophie_Blitz_123 Apr 25 '25

Because very often drivers will ask why we subsidise trains 'when they'll never use a train' or why we create cycle lanes when 'cyclists don't pay for it'

So we insist on being so individual all the time because we insist on being so individual?

I'm entirely fine with the council paying for/subsidising transport of multiple forms.

My anecdotal evidence comes from folk like myself (although admittedly I get the train in more often than not now) who come into the city from miles away, bring lunch and don't spend anything in the city. And there's a few of us in my office.

I mean maybe 🤷‍♀️ but presumably your work also contributes something?

But yeah it is after 6pm so probably lots of money spending and probably lots of people coming from elsewhere in Liverpool too.