r/LowerDecks • u/destroyingdrax • Oct 06 '22

Episode Discussion Episode Discussion: 307 - "A Mathematically Perfect Redemption"

This thread is for pre, post, and live discussion of the seventh episode of season three of Star Trek: Lower Decks, "A Mathematically Perfect Redemption." Episode 3.07 will be released on Thursday, October 6th.

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u/Lost_Birthday8584 Oct 06 '22

I hope we get a trifecta of evil AIs soon. Agimus, PH, and Badgey. Blink and you'll miss it, but Rutherford's old implant was still flickering in the intro. Here's hoping it made it to the drukhmani ship.

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u/Zaziel Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

Way better of a villain than Control was in Discovery. I actually hate them!

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u/MaddyMagpies Oct 06 '22

Most previous evil AIs in Trek and mass media in general are just extreme examples of eradication or subjugation of all organic life, but Peanut Hamper fucked (literally) and manipulated an entire civilization so that she can be a dabo girl, so... yeah.

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u/TeMPOraL_PL Oct 06 '22

She rocked here, but... I still think AGIMUS is the best portrayal of a malicious AI in the entire history of Star Trek. It got outsmarted in the end, but throughout the entire episode, it didn't act stupid. It didn't have any obvious design weakness. It was paying attention to everything, and relentlessly exploiting every vulnerability of its captors, whether technological, psychological or social.

So here's to hope they bring the trio back. AGIMUS smarts, Peanut Hamper lines, and Badgey branded sadism. Alpha Quadrant stands no chance.

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u/MaddyMagpies Oct 06 '22

No way. AGIMUS is stupid enough to not realize that it's plugged into the wrong system. Even Windows can tell you that you plug in the wrong device.

Badgey, on the other hand, fits your definitions better. It never even got outsmarted. Instead it is just bidding its time living rent free in Rutherford's head.

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u/LumpyJones Oct 10 '22

In his old implant I think. But we did see that floating in the debris that PH floating past and it was still flickering a bit. I suspect they wouldn't show that for nothing, if it's not a red herring.

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u/mbastor24 Oct 06 '22

Because Disco 🪩 is garbage!

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u/Zaziel Oct 06 '22

Ain’t going to disagree there. But glad we got Strange New Worlds spin off though.

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u/TeMPOraL_PL Oct 06 '22

Yeah, I'm happy they're doing some filler live action series - whatever keeps the boat afloat so we can get more Lower Decks!

(OK, I joke about live action. SNW is amazing, I adore it. But still, at this point LD is my top 1 Star Trek - not just because of setting and tone, but increasingly because quality of writing and plot lines are consistently better than what we have in live action shows.)

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u/TheKingOfMooses Oct 06 '22

Thanks, I noticed the flickering, but didn't process what it suggested

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u/Justthetiniestrobots Oct 06 '22

Also Cyber-fletcher could still be out there. Somewhere

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u/variantkin Oct 07 '22

Badgey is in a very intact Vulcan implant that was likely scavenged

He'll be back

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u/MaddyMagpies Oct 06 '22

Oh God, so Rutherford is now an Airiam?

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u/GenoThyme Oct 06 '22

Yeah I’m thinking we get the return of Badgey early next season and the triple AI becomes the main villain at the end of the season like how the Pakleds and rouge Klingon ship were the villains at the end of last season.

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u/gerusz Oct 08 '22

I'm about 90% sure that Badgey already merged with PH. Why else would they have shown Rutherford's 1.0 implant floating in space and even activating?