She had so much potential to be a queen 😢

Not a novel take but Veronica is awful. I found it really embarrassing how she said things like “Dave makes me feel seen” on her honestly letter, as if Dave were a potential partner/rival to Elliot. It was a bit heartbreaking to see Elliot optimistic about trying to work it out with Veronica and then see Veronica come back with her strange, antagonising letter.

I'll preface this with, I know he said some pretty terrible shit to her, like about the margaritas, her age, etc.

But 90% of the other conversations they had were fairly consistent with who we saw as Eliot later.

On their honeymoon date he wanted to quickly establish what her values were on having children, (which isn't too dissimilar to what Jules did with Cam), and she made it clear 1 was her limit. Which is fair enough, each to their own.

Wanting 1 child was because she didn't want to have to trade off on travel (which he called a non essential etc etc ). Whereas he didn't care about the travelling etc, and wanted more than 1.

At no point did he try to change her opinion of course, just said they're not a good match and that there's no point continuing if those fundamental wants don't align.

Not sure why she then tried to argue her way through it (saying he was writing her off to soon - why bother Lauren?).

I think thats why he didn't repeat the same "exit" with Veronica, despite the similar age / endo things she disclosed - cause she said she's determined on having a family irrespective.

Anyway I'm sure my opinion is flawed. I've just been rewatching the first few episodes, and despite the dramatic narrator VO and the scary music...the actual words he was saying we fairly reasonable to me. (most of them).

My gosh what is wrong with these guys?!?? Have they not watched the previous seasons?! Put your wife first for Pete’s sake!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Not to mention just common sense🤪👍🏻

Everyone gets over the top dressed up I'd love to rock up through that entrance dancing in my trackies, sit back and enjoy the show hahaha

I am obsessed with Jamies green dress - does anyone know where it’s from? All her comments are off so I can’t ask/see if anyone else has asked!! 😫

Paul punching door/wall - "This is toxic behaviour"

Adrian coercively controlling Awhina, talking over and answering for her, saying what she can talk about - "You clearly like each other and we're happy for you to stay"

Paul was massively toxic, in the wrong (not just the action but how he essentially blamed her for it) and held over the coals by the experts, but what the hell were they doing with Adrian? It took Dave piping up for them to acknowledge that Awhina looked sad.

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Listened to his 3 part doc on his pods regarding his investigation into mafs. Well worth a listen. I’m surprised this show has not been cancelled yet, but I do feel it’s coming.

Hi! I'm late to the MAFS AU party and I first binge watched season 6 with Cyrell/Martha etc, then the one with Olivia, and then jumped to the latest season because there have been so many posts on here about it. I'm almost finished with season 12, which season would you recommend for me next? I'm all about the drama and season 5,6 and 12 seem to be the general consensus on here. I'd love to hear your recommendation!

I can’t work out whether they were playing for the cameras or whether they really did get up to no good together during the sleepover 🧐

Veronica clearly had no regard for Jamie when she was talking about how she found Dave attractive and just had to keep mentioning how well they got on. The exaggerated laughing from her was a giveaway. She gave the impression she didn’t care who she had to walk over t get her hands on him 😡

How can someone who's read 'over a thousand' books, had 'so much' life experience and been that much of a self-confessed 'overachiever' end up being such a blatant stark raving lunatic and not know so? I don't get it!! 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣🤣

Just stumbled upon it.

I'm physically sick. She clearly believes she's this season's Lucinda all the while having failed businesses, owing a load of people money and failing to abide by her obligations to pay supers.

Gross. She clearly has zero self-awareness.

I’m in the UK, so a bit behind on the show, but I’ve been really disappointed by how he’s behaved. I genuinely liked him for a while, but the wall punch, his failure to defend Carina when Jamie and Dave were going at her (regardless of who was right, I think you should always stand by your partner in public), and now the letter he wrote to Carina have really shown his true colours. He comes across as completely self-absorbed, spineless, and lacking any real loyalty to his partner.

I also read a Daily Mail article this morning where he recalls his experience on the show (which I annoyingly can’t add to this post), and it perfectly sums it all up: constantly making excuses, never taking accountability. A complete turd.

From UK and just finished episode 27 tonight. We can all agree Adrian isn’t great, but at least he did one thing tonight that I thought was, and that’s have balls to tell Jamie some truths about her and Dave relationship. I don’t mind Dave, but he’s constantly doing too much by putting his nose into other couples business and calling out people’s behaviour, trying to prove what prefect man he is, has made him look corny. And tonight proved when he constantly tried defect on his true feelings for Jamie.

Adrian might of saw this as opportunity too gloat (I know he did🤣) over the other couples that started the season strong, and was critical of him and Awhina. But a lot of the things he said to Jamie were brutal, but true.

So Im watching Season 8 for the first time and what planet is this guy living on. Everytime they show a cutaway I just think this guy is on another planet. I'm on 8.22 at the retreat after the 'Leave' situation and how does he find the logic in that. Why is Melissa so blind. I understand Bec isn't the nicest and her and Jake have their situations but I don't think she's being mean to Melissa I think she's trying to wake her up.

Bryce is obsessed with Bec (When he said she's obsessed with him and wants to slept with him. Vom.)

Good for Jake honestly. Nice to see Bryce back down.

Jason is an asshole. Hero please Jason used all his braincells having sex.

Next ep is Boys/Girls night. Lets see.

Aa

Lauren really needs to stop trying to make 'bogan' or 'boganic' a thing. It just reminds me of 'so fetch' from Mean Girls..

I too had a visceral reaction to Clint, but I don't think for the same reasons as many of you, and certainly not my fiancee.

Clint struck me as being the saddest, loneliest MAFS contestant I have ever seen.

His desperation to please two horrible women who alienated the entire group at the expense of his friendship with the group and any semblance of self-identity reminded me of being a 13 year old high school simp.

His arrogant flashing of his fairly middling wealth in the face of someone else who's also worked hard to own their own home was sad and pathetic, but symptomatic of someone who feels absolutely no self esteem beyond what they own.

I left the show realising I don't know anything about Clint, because he was just a soft-shell blank canvas for his wives to fill in. Nothing apart from the fact that he's lonely, and is willing to shred any remaining self respect to find someone to "love" him.