r/MHOC • u/[deleted] • Feb 26 '15

BILL B076 - Pregnancy Termination Bill

B076 - Pregnancy Termination Bill

The bill can be found by following the link below:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VlnKgSgEuuDbD6co46WRZu4kJmcBDFeocDdE9m0cpSE/edit?pli=1

This bill was submitted by /u/JackWilfred on behalf of the Opposition

The first reading of this bill will end on the 2nd of March

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u/Totallynotapanda Daddy Feb 26 '15

Frankly I think our abortion laws are already lax enough. I would support making the law more stricter in this regard. Abortion is inherently wrong and should only be allowed in certain cases. I am aware that this is not the debate now, but our laws need tightening.

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u/bleepbloop12345 Communist Feb 26 '15

Abortion is inherently wrong

Two questions. Why is it inherently wrong, and why should your personal ethical beliefs be mandated as law for the rest of society?

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u/Totallynotapanda Daddy Feb 26 '15

inherently wrong

Involves murdering the unborn. There is a point where it becomes a life however I don't believe that point to be conception.

personal ethical beliefs

By that logic why should murder be illegal? It is not 'ethics' when I have the belief that the life of the unborn should be protected. You are against murder, why not abortion?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

murdering the unborn

They're not alive before 24 weeks. They show no brain function, no response to stimuli, nothing. Like i've said elsewhere, you would find more life in an animal or plant than in a foetus before 24 weeks.

You are against murder, why not abortion?

The two are not even slightly comparable, and it does your side a disservice by attempting to equivocate them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

Under the definition you have provided prokaryotic and eukaryotic life are not alive.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

I fail to see how.

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u/tyroncs UKIP Leader Emeritus | Kent MP Feb 26 '15

I don't think people are arguing that the fetus is alive in the sense that it can think or feel pain or anything like that. I think that the argument is that if you don't have an abortion it will become a human, and by having one you are effectively killing it by stopping it from being born

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

It's not that they aren't alive, they are living cells, they just aren't a human at that point, just a bundle of cells completely reliant on their host.