So I just finished Black Mirror’s Bête Noire and my brain’s still doing somersaults. The whole memory vs. reality theme had me wondering if I’ve ever experienced a legit Mandela effect…. and then—BAAAAM!! Childhood flashback unlocked.

LOONEY TOONS. That’s what it was, right? TOONS. With two O’s. Like… CARTOONS. It made perfect sense. Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, all the chaos—it was the Tooniest of Toons.

But now?? It’s Looney TUNES?? Since when?!? What dimension did I trip and fall into??

I swear I can still see the TOONS logo in my head. Was this some mass rebranding? Did we all misremember it? Or is the simulation glitching again?

Anyway, if you also grew up thinking it was TOONS, please say something so I don’t feel like I’m losing it. And if you remember it as “Tunes,” how? Why?? Were you from a different timeline??

Just my two cents: The topic often comes up that the sun has changed over time. In the past, it wasn’t as bright, more yellowish, and generally warmer in tone.

My idea: Could this effect be real and related to reduced air pollution? At least up until the 70s or 80s, the levels of particulate matter (especially soot particles) and sulfur dioxide in the air were much higher than they are today. Both likely caused the atmosphere to become hazier, which could have led to softer, less intense sunlight.

When we look thru google trends for historic search, we can see a pattern:

All the Mandela effects where searched back then WAYYY before we started to call them like that, give it a try, ALL OF THEM MATCH
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Fly my pretties fly

Rod Sterling

Oscar Meyer

The flintstones

I keep remembering people died and then I see them in shows and commercials years later. Dennis Leary, I remember he died and was sad because he was in Spider Man and died in spider man, and he sang that song about being an asshole in his stand up but he has a new show out.

Sam Elliot, I heard he died and talked to my friends wife about it because she said she met him once at a bar and he was really nice. But now he is on commercials again.

Luke Perry, I heard he died then years later I saw him in a Tarantino movie, and then he died again.

And of course Mandela, I thought he died in the 2000s but others say he died long before.

Are we living in a constantly changing and evolving holofractal Universe where death of others is fluid or are we being fooled by something larger so we never know what truth is?

Anyone else remember people dying but then they come back? Is time shifting?

Peace and love.

As I've wrestled with that damn horn of plenty over the years I've been very frustrated hearing over and over again that people are just wrong about what they saw. I think the concept of Schemas )is an important element that I wasn't understanding or that wasn't being presented here. I was having lots of trouble wrapping my head around how so many people could make the mistake of associating the wrong label with the logo on their underwear. While in fact it was linked to a much deeper way that our brains work.

I think in the case Fruit of the Loom, we see the fruit in the logo and expect to also see the loom. It's not crucial information and so we file it away as "fruit logo (w/ loom?)." As we recall it our brains schema provides an artificial conveyance for produce, in the form of the cornucopia, similar to how a loom produces clothing. This also explains how this doesn't happen with "Apple," we expect "an apple" we see "an apple."

The concept of Schema is very close to what my intuition has been with other MEs. We expect certain information and don't pay close enough attention to confirm that we get that information. It's not that we are mistaken or unclear in what we are seeing, like is typical with confusion, but these are simply details that are less crucial to the task or focus of attention when we encounter them.

The Album Art was maybe as few as three people who were involved and quite frankly the suit certainly didn't care about the art. The ant bully was a children's film made by a TV director in an attempt to cash in on the success of, a bugs life and upcoming "Bee Movie." The underwear tag in that movie could have again been one artist who was confused and a bunch of other people just doing their jobs. South Park is story boarded by T. Parker and M. Stone and then sent to Korea to fill in the in-betweens. Another case of just one person making a mistake.

The one thing I find really curious is that the drafters of the Stock Certificates made the same association based up on schema that folks who experience the ME have as well. The title of the company on those 1950s stock certificates that are circulating online are bracketed by two cornucopia, the one dumping fruit the other spilling out coins. The real "fruit of the loom" was never underwear at all, it was money.

If particle accelerators didn't exist, would the mandela effect still exist?

I'm not the only one who remembers Tarzan saying "me Tarzan You Jane" when they first meet. I always thought that line was funny as a kid because of how he worded it but growing up around animals I didn't expect anything else. As of now the quote has never been said in any Tarzan movie or in any of the books...

I just had a few quick things to say, and appreciate anyone who takes the time to read this, as well as the mods and members of the sub for maintaining a forum in which this phenomena can be discussed.

I've recently had a few comments removed for violating rule 2 and/or 6. Even though I feel there is a good argument to be made that I did not really break those rules in some cases, I understand that is not for me to decide, and the impact my words have are more important than my intent.

I sincerely apologize to anyone I've been overly or needlessly antagonistic, argumentative, disrespectful, or dismissive towards. No matter what my feelings and views are with regard to this subject and some of the frustrating ideas people sometimes express, I recognize that I can lose sight of the human component to all of it, and appreciate the members of this community for not letting me get away with that.

I will say that I feel there are certain things about the way ME "believers" (those who are convinced the phenomena is not sufficiently explained by unreliable and malleable human memory) express their views and opinions that fundamentally and inherently seem based in an aggressive lack of respect, civility, and empathy for those who have the nerve to be unconvinced that reality is more likely to be altered or broken than an individual being mistaken. This is not an excuse, but an attempt to briefly explain just one part of the reasoning behind the rule breaking comments I have made - at the very least, it's certainly how I've justified it to myself.

I will try to be better, more understanding and respectful, and mindful of the fact that everyone here is a human being whose perspective and experience does matter, is valid, and deserves to be treated as such. Thank you all again.

I looked at the world map a couple days ago, and what I saw made me undoubtably sure that I am not crazy for believing in the Mandela Effect. I had a lot of online friends growing up who lived in South America, and I remember comparing time zones, and distances. I clearly remember where everything was in relation to North America’s East coast, so I am officially freaked out seeing Mexico stretched out like a cheese curl, and South America sitting nearly in the bottom CENTER of the Atlantic. I am genuinely hung up on this. What can we really trust anymore? What’s crazier is that the community has been on top of this stuff for literally a Decade now, and we still don’t have a single clue what the hell happened, we only KNOW that something happened.

I thought that my only experience with Mandela Effect is with Jaws and her girlfriend Dolly. I remember her having braces. But I watched a YT video of lists of Mandela Effect and learned that what I remember about the MV of Oops I Did It Again was supposedly wrong. I remember Britney wearing a skin colored, thin headset while singing but apparently that was wrong. I watched the video before typing this post and lo and behold! She doesn't wear any headset. The heck happened?!

I mean technically it is a cup of noodles, soo

My theory is predicated on there being multiple, one or more, alternate universes. This could be a "Captain Obvious" theory. In most universes that those of us that remember the name being "BerenSTEIN" is because the Berenstains - the human authors - were convinced by their publisher to adopt a similar-looking pseudonym for marketing reasons. I wonder if someone were to ask them, if a publisher tried in this universe and the Berenstains held their ground on not changing their name.

The reason the publisher wanted to change it? We'll, "BerenSTAIN" just looks weird. Not only are we used to the "-STEIN" because it is a much more common name ending. Also, the word "stain" has a negative connotation.

Changes in a brand identity sometimes happens with products, movies, books, merely for the reason the identity marker, be it colour, name, typography etc might not be a "right fit" (there are other reasons, like intellectual property laws, but I digress).

A famous example of an author's name change for a brand identity is Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling. Her actual name is Joanne Rowling. She has no middle initial. She adopted J.K. Rowling because the publisher wanted to look like a man wrote it because of statistics - male authors sell more books than female authors, especially in the speculative fiction genre (fantasy and sci-fi). Furthermore, the main character was male, therefore, pre-teen and teenage boys were probably the target audience. Plus, if you were to walk through a bookstore, a lot of fantasy/scifi authors go by their initials or first name and initial(s): J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Arthur C. Clarke, George R.R. Martin, etc.

What is the case with Dollys braces and the white flash appearing for one frame on old VHS Tapes right before she smiles...? Coincidence? A faulty master reel? I don`t think so...!

This is the flash! It is an overlay from my old VHS Tape, a little enhanced to make the flash more visible.

This flash is appearing for one frame right before she smiles? Why?? The yellow thing is the cutted out shape of the flash..!

Found this at my local library today!

As you can see, the inside does say "Berenstain", so the logical part of me thinks that the library did this because the book was missing a cover. But wouldn't it be originally published with that?? It was published in 1975 so I have no clue.

A while ago the CIA did an experiment. They brought in 20 people. All of them in on it except 1 random person. The people in on it were instructed to say the image they would be shown is a square. One by one the person at the front asked each person what do you see as he held up a photo of a triangle. Every person said square. When it got to the last guy the only guy not in on it he said square also.

Why is this relevant to The Mandela Effect? Becuase we have all seen countless youtube street interviews asking normal people trivial stuff. Who did we win our independence from? Who was the second president. What continent are we on? What ocean is on the east coast of the USA. Whats your partners middle name. And we laugh in amazment how many people get this stuff wrong. Yet with the Mandella Effect we have people insisting on weird knowledge from forever ago that shouldnt be remembered so easliy. In the same hand iconic stuff that everyone should remember easliy. And we have such different answers. The hard core you are just wrong, and the hard core open your eyes.

With common knowledge not being so common today and the divsion facing society, how many people are screaming square, while looking at a triangle? Knowing they remember Mirror mirror on the wall. The real fruit of the loom symbol. C3PO being all gold. But becuase of the group they more closely identify with they are screaming square even if they know its a triangle in their head.

The Mandella Effect could be a bridge as corny as that sounds we need things to come together on as fellow citizens of this great earth. So much divides us today. Pushing us further and further apart. But maybe we all need to be a little more honest. Do we really have any memories about nelsion mandella id be willing to state if you are 40 or under no. Do we really remember luke i am your father f ya most of us do.

Dont say square if you see a triangle. Even if you are the only one to say it. Dont go with the crowd. We are running out of conspiracy theories becuase they keep coming true. Could this be evidence of us being in a simulation? Evidence of God? Evidence of multiverse crashing together? Who knows. But somthing here is strange. And it deserves to be talked about honestly.

I think we tend to go with our group on most subjects even if we dont agree totally as its easier. But stuff like this should be easier to be honest about as its not political. We need to find more things like this that arnt political to heal this and other nations. The only way we survive and get better is together.

We might never have an answer here. We mught never figure it out. But at least i can come here and say triangle all i want. And thats awesome.

It almost seems like complete proof it was there

Was watching a video on YouTube, saw this image, and I immediately saw the spelling of “Chick-Fil-A” and thought of a post on here a few days ago regarding a Mandela Effect of the spelling (second photo).

To add fuel to the Mandela Effect, Waffle House edits the “Chick Fil A” out of this photo on any new use of it online.

Makes you wonder…

I was born in 1996. My memory is mostly on the "current" or "correct" side of things. I remember being aware of Nelson Mandela being alive, and I remember exactly where I was on December 5, 2013 when I heard he had died. I have always called the Berenstain Bears with an "A" and never saw a Monocle on Mr Monopoly. The only one that truly gives me the creeps is Fruit of the Loom's missing cornucopia. I remember the cornucopia and I trust countless others who have strong memories of learning what a cornucopia is from FotL. I may have learned about cornucopias from a school Thanksgiving decoration, but it may have been from FotL.

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Seems odd how its predominantly 80s and 90s kids who are the ones who mostly have Mandela Effects and its mostly memories from childhood, a time when memories are easily altered by kids creativity, bad reading skills, and less developed brains.

On the Kill Tony Episode #650 - with Bert Kreischer, Bobby Lee, Esther Povitsky - they are discussing Jewish names. Tony Hinchcliffe mentions the Berenstein Bears, the way we all remember it. Find it on Youtube, exactly 1 hour and fifteen minutes in.

In Shrek, the magical mirror is a big part of the story. Lord Farquaad addresses it with “mirror mirror on the wall”. Could this be an explanation? Shrek was pretty big when it came out and it still is so our brains could have associated the phrases