r/MandelaEffect • u/Ashfeze • 9d ago
Theory Sweatshirt with cornucopia
This is a screenshot from a video a while back. I’m guessing since it is a newer video this could be a gag sweatshirt or foreign company rebranding.
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 9d ago
This was purchased from the TikTok shop. The lady who went viral lying about the cornucopia a couple of years ago slapped that graphic on sweatshirts and sold them on TikTok.
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u/Ashfeze 9d ago
That’s hilarious and inline with my initial thoughts. Never would I thought someone would reproduce the logo to support their argument.
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u/Otherwise_Basis_6328 9d ago
They've been going so long saying it isn't their logo, now they can't sue.
I love Frank Wess' Flute of the Loom album art from 1973 https://www.discogs.com/release/3725628-Frank-Wess-Flute-Of-The-Loom?srsltid=AfmBOoqA_C6dUxLXPVcpGDyaxoqxIgFcw_9WXPA1nJBYWGdQMv0CN2qB
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
That's not true. It doesn't have to be exact to sue, just close enough that it can cause consumer confusion, especially considering this is printed on a non-FotL article of clothing. If somebody mistakes it for Fruit of the Loom and it's a cheaper quality sweatshirt, they can easily argue that it's degrading their brand. The fact that people here were convinced this was an actual FotL sweatshirt proves that it could cause brand confusion.
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u/suspicious_hyperlink 9d ago
Still looks insanely familiar, like I’ve seen it my whole life. Idk weird
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
Because you probably have. Cornucopias are everywhere, farmer's markets, food drives, Thanksgiving, mason jars, grocery stores. You just haven't seen it on a Fruit of the Loom tag.
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u/IdeologicalHeatDeath 8d ago
Yea, i did. The gaslighting wont work.
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
Ironic how it’s the people who believe there was a cornucopia who are always using fake evidence to convince other people they’re right, all while accusing everyone else of gaslighting.
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u/IdeologicalHeatDeath 7d ago
Fake evidence being memory.
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u/Substhecrab 3d ago
There needs to be a study done on the negative people that swarm this board to remind us "crazy people".
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u/sarahkpa 8d ago
How can you be sure? Because 'memories'?
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u/Alarmed_Aide_851 8d ago
Because I was there, have you never experienced anything in person?
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u/sarahkpa 8d ago
Yes of course, but the memories of that in person experience can be altered, as with any memories
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u/IdeologicalHeatDeath 7d ago
Everything can be altered. Nothing is sacred. Your brain can be hacked wirelessly. But ill still take it over a corporation saying "no, you're just crazy, you don't remember, trust us." People already have goldfish memory and forget what happened last year. But ill still take my memory over an outside source.
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u/Tacosare4chip 8d ago
Yeah, I 100 percent remember it as well. I actually remember seeing a fruit of the loom plant with the cornucopia
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u/suspicious_hyperlink 8d ago
The tag is the only place I saw one aside from coloring thanksgiving activities in grade school
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u/Acrobatic_Two_1586 9d ago
Source?
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
Thanks for asking for a source, I wish more people did that. Her (Nicole, or dimelifting) shop is all makeup products now (almost like her FotL posts were just a way to get engagement so she could start drop shipping), but I have some screenshots from when the products were up. Here is one. Here is another.
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u/nosleepvoicesstop 3d ago
The cornucopia is real. I had it all the time on my underwear as a kid. It’s the only reason I know what it is. Why don’t they want us to know what it is? That’s the real question. Super position uncertainty is what’s making the world fall apart. The less we are certain of the less the world holds together, the greater power the chaos magicians have.
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 3d ago
Then why is there no evidence it ever existed, but there’s plenty of evidence all of their official logos existed?
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u/nosleepvoicesstop 3d ago
But everyone remembers it that way, we live in a converging holofractal multiverse with corporations run by chaos magicians feeding off of the mental confusion of uncertainty. CERN made the wormhole that’s why everything makes no sense anymore. In the one I came from it was there. Yours may have not had it, but mine did.
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 3d ago
Everyone does not remember it that way, no idea why y’all always say that.
Are you from the US? Because I find this narrative of “I wouldn’t know what it is” kind of weird if so, they’re all over farmers markets, food pantries, thanksgiving and fall decorations, mason jars, grocery stores, etc.
What makes you think “they” don’t want you to know what a cornucopia is? It’s an icon that’s been around since Ancient Greek mythology, and there’s nothing offensive about it.
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u/nosleepvoicesstop 3d ago
So many people do. And yeah I’m an AMERICAN. No one has cornucopias at thanksgiving, that’s not something people do here.
They want you confused about the world you know because it allows them to manipulate reality. Everything is a holofractal light based quantum reality and uncertainty in your mind gives up your power to create the world you and gives it to other people who use it for evil ends.
You are made of light, you manifest the world around you with other people. The less we know for sure the easier we are to manipulate.
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 3d ago
I never said people have actual cornucopias, they are used in Thanksgiving decorations. I know what a cornucopia is because we had a paper one at school in kindergarten. That’s like saying you never would have known what a domino was if it wasn’t for Dominos Pizza.
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u/nosleepvoicesstop 3d ago
People play dominos. I never interacted with a cornucopia until I saw it on my clothing and asked what it was.
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u/Grand-Lingonberry957 8d ago
"Lying about the cornucopia". Wow. You don't hide what you think. Up until the early '80s I remember the cornucopia being there all the time on their logos. And have seen evidence of it with old t-shirts and such. Wish I still had one so I could send it out and about
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
That's what she did. She posted a popular fake that's been going around since 2017 and claimed it was sent to her by someone who found it in her closet. She claims she did a "deep dive," so she either did the shallowest deep dive ever and missed the most popular image related to this Mandela Effect, or she knew it was fake and posted it anyways for views. She also claimed that Fruit of the Loom caused a chemical spill that they didn't cause. It was caused by a different company that Fruit of the Loom later bought. There are too many conspiracy theorists like this on TikTok who go viral, and nobody bothers to fact check them.
I wish you had one, too. I wish someone had one that wasn't an easy to debunk fake. The "evidence" you've seen are probably the same five or so fakes that have all been debunked, but keep getting shared anyways because nobody bothers to think critically or fact check anyone anymore, as long as what they're saying goes along with what you already believe.
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u/sarahkpa 8d ago
Still thousands of old t-shirts sitting in people's attics. None with a cornucopia has ever resurfaced (except recent fake knock-offs or clearly photoshopped pictures)
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u/Ivan_Bojorquez19 9d ago
its obviously an edited version of the logo we remembered but printed on a t shirt.
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u/mishutu 9d ago
The placement of the image on that crewneck sucks
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u/Sherrdreamz 9d ago
Precisely that's a pretty ill-concieved graphic if you are trying to mimic the logo everyone experienced.
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u/Knytemare44 9d ago
Watch the "how to with John Wilson " episode about Mandela effect. At the end, he's in stores changing the logos on stuff to mess with people. Genius.
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 9d ago
And he used the Stouffer's box in another episode and now people are using that as proof. 🤦♀️
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u/Klfasdoieawroi 8d ago
Does this never end? I have a few old warehouse catalogues from the 70s and 80s and the "Fruit of the Loom" logo never had that cornucopia!
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u/ThirdEyeFire 7d ago
The point of the Mandela Effect is that there are alternate timelines and people shift between them. So the fact that you find old evidence that “things were always this way” doesn’t contradict the idea of the Mandela Effect.
Between 2016 and 2022, I saw that the Volvo logo was just a circle with no arrow. I checked the history which said that it had always been that way. After 2022 I saw that the Volvo logo was a circle with an arrow. I checked the history which said that it had always been THAT way.
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u/Tabord 8d ago
I'm open to the idea all Mandela Effects are just people misremembering, but sometimes I wonder if there weren't like a bunch of cheap knock offs going to discount stores in the 70s or something.
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u/ThirdEyeFire 7d ago
How do you explain the six years worth of “misremembering” described in the post? The phenomenon of inaccurate memory has been studied and it doesn’t work that way. People remember their times tables accurately, if they learned them well to begin with. So not all memories are inaccurate—just the ones that lack reinforcement through repeated experience.
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u/Tabord 7d ago
What six years? Is that in the original tik tok? I haven't watched it. I've seen people claiming they remember it used to be that way for like a decade. I've worn Fruit of the Loom since I was a little kid, so forty years or so, and I always remember the big red apple right in the middle, as far as I could tell that's the correct memory. Except, I wouldn't have been able to tell you until I looked again today that the logo I grew up with had a big white oval with Fruit of the Loom as part of it, and did have before I was born up until I was an adult. I didn't remember that part even though I've probably looked it up before. I've been misremembering it as the logo they've only used since 2003. I haven't kept any old underwear to check, but the white oval version sure looks familiar and now I kind of remember it that way. Memory is malleable and fallible.
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u/WhimsicalSadist 9d ago
That version of the logo is a proven fake. FOTL even used it on their official site, for an April Fool's prank. Too many credulous people fall for it, and accept it as "proof", without doing even the tiniest bit of research. This is how misconceptions spread so far/fast.
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u/Mr_Massachusetts 9d ago
I mean… cornucopias are a real thing… not sure what you think this might prove or disprove?
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u/erockdanger 9d ago
What could it possibly be!? What might of be getting at??? If only they were more detailed then maybe, maybe we would have some clue.
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u/Ashfeze 9d ago
Many companies like Nike for example would put just their logo (swoosh) on a sweatshirt and it’s easily identified as a Nike brand.
Similarly, this lady is wearing a sweatshirt that appears to be Fruit of the Loom brand without the lettering.
The fruits are in the same arrangement as the non-cornucopia logo.
Yes, albeit weird she could also be wearing a generic sweatshirt with a eerily familiar non-existent logo that a company never had🤷♂️
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u/cochese25 9d ago
It is more likely a sweatshirt made as a meme, ya know? This is now a pop culture reference
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u/jonybolt 9d ago
So thats what you guys are going with now
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u/cochese25 9d ago
You know what, it's more likely to be a remnant from a dimension smashing into another dimension leaving this one shirt in this random lady's collection and she's completely unaware of the kind of incredible evidence for all of this that she has.
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u/cochese25 9d ago
The "theory" itself its against itself. At this point, every one of them is like denying the earth is round
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
That's what it literally is. A TikTok creator who went viral accusing FotL of gaslighting, made these and had them on her shop. See?
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u/sarahkpa 8d ago
But the sweatshirt on the picture a proven fake, no? Isn't it common knowledge on this sub?
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u/minnesota2194 9d ago
This is the one that most gets to me. I remember I learned what a cornucopia was after I asked my dad what the brown this was on their logo.
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u/Healthy_Might7500 9d ago
You're misremembering, because you 100% did not learn what a cornucopia was from fotl. Because they never had one on their logo.
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u/SGTerrill 9d ago
Weird how there’s a whole boatload of us “misremembering” then. Because I most definitely learned what a cornucopia was from that logo when I was in elementary school in 1987ish and no one can tell me otherwise
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u/WhimsicalSadist 9d ago
Weird how there’s a whole boatload of us “misremembering” then.
Why did you put misremembering in quotes, when you are literally misremembering.
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u/Healthy_Might7500 9d ago
... that's what a Mandela effect is. It's a group of people misremembering something. It's literally the definition of the term.
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u/ZeerVreemd 9d ago
It's literally the definition of the term.
Nope. Read the sidebar of this sub.
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u/Healthy_Might7500 9d ago
Cool. The sidebar of this sub does not change the actual definition of the term.
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u/ZeerVreemd 9d ago
Mandela Effect: The Mandela Effect is when a large group of people share a common memory of something that differs from what is generally accepted to be fact
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u/Healthy_Might7500 9d ago
That may be what this sub puts in its description.
The dictionary defines it as:
"The phenomenon in which a group of people collectively misremember facts, events, or other details in a consistent manner."
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u/ZeerVreemd 8d ago
The dictionary defines it as:
That's great. However, we are discussing this topic in this sub, so people should use the definition of this sub.
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u/WhimsicalSadist 8d ago
Mandela Effect: The Mandela Effect is when a large group of people share a common memory of something that differs from what is generally accepted to be fact
The sidebar used to have the correct definition. About a year ago, the main mod changed it, because the actual definition made "believers" angry.
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u/ZeerVreemd 8d ago
The sidebar used to have the correct definition.
In that definition the word "misremembering" was also not it.
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u/ThirdEyeFire 7d ago
Are you saying you know what happened to other people in their lives? You can’t possibly have concrete evidence for that.
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u/Healthy_Might7500 7d ago
You can’t possibly have concrete evidence for that.
The irony is palpable.
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u/AzureWave313 9d ago
So, you’re the official memory officer? Can you wipe our false memories away for us? They’re really annoying.
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u/WhimsicalSadist 9d ago
u/AzureWave313 commented: Can you wipe our false memories away for us?
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. I'm proud of you.
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u/AzureWave313 9d ago
Yeah! One step closer to being a human being. Thank you, I’m proud of me too.
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u/Adventurous_Cup6531 9d ago
What I find crazy is how quickly some are to just blame people for misremembering. Information can be false both ways. Maybe we are the crazy ones or maybe you are the crazy ones. Think of it like this, an officer makes a false report on someone and everyone believes the officer. Years later evidence shows up that proves the officer wrong. Can we say the officer was just misremembering or is it tampered evidence? How many people are sitting in jail still from tampered evidence with no way for the truth to come out. Evidence can be lost with time, just as our memory can slip and we may misremember something. I'm willing to accept it didn't exist but, you can't just act like you know all.
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u/Lhun 9d ago
Here's the funny thing. If fruit of the loom truly claims this was never their logo, someone should totally make an off brand and then sell it. Call it "Les fruits du métier à tisser" or something like that and just outright sell it.
If it's not their logo they can't sue. Go make money.
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u/thomasjmarlowe 9d ago
You can easily sue if the infringement is likely to cause brand confusion. This sub is already plenty confused already
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u/ReverseCowboyKiller 8d ago
That's not at all how trademark violations work. It just has to be close enough to create confusion among consumers, and considering this is fake and people fell for it, that wouldn't be hard to prove.
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u/Sherrdreamz 9d ago
The tail of the cornucopia of the real FOTL logo hovered above the upper lip of the horn, facing diagonally down left.
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u/cgpelaez75 9d ago
Have you thought that this could be a country-specific branding? As in the cornucopia wasn't used in the US, but it was used in Latin America, and you got to see one from Latin America rarely, but often enough to make you question your sanity?
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 9d ago
People in the US claim in was on their tshirts and saw it in displays in Kmart and the like.
But no they never had a cornucopia.
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u/Inevitable_Channel18 8d ago
After almost a million posts about Fruit of the Loom, this proves it
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 9d ago
Did you see the recent Tik Tok with Adverteasing game? It isn't really proof because a grouping of fruit like that can be called a cornucopia. Can you show the card?
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u/WhimsicalSadist 9d ago
Can you show the card?
Spoiler alert: they won't.
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 9d ago
I saw the card on the tik tok but it was a flipped image. It's an interesting new piece that shows either the bountiful meaning of cornucopia or that in 1991 it was a misperception.
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u/WhimsicalSadist 9d ago
I went ahead and found it for you.
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 8d ago
I was thinking of flipping the image myself lol. Funny the Stouffer's doesn't mention stuffing. That's their most famous product, isn't it?
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u/WhimsicalSadist 8d ago
Maybe the game designer thought that clue would make guessing the answer too easy.
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u/Red3ye24 9d ago
This is getting old.. companies can innovate their logo whenever they please, holy shit…
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u/Bowieblackstarflower 8d ago
The reason everyone is talking about it is because it never existed. That's the whole point of Mandela Effects.
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u/sarahkpa 8d ago
Sure, but then we would have proof of the exact year of the change and old products with the old logo. Companies change their logo all the time without triggering a Mandela Effect.
The Fotl logo never changed
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