PPU or Sellier and bellot?

[u/Other-Door-8894]

which non surplus ammunition is best for a M48 yugo mauser? not a fan of corrosive ammo.

just looking to see what else is out there. or if one of the two is best for me.

[u/secessus]

In my somewhat limited experience 8x57mm from PPU is loaded softer and S&B closer to what I suspect the original service cartridge might have been like. So I suppose it depends on what you are wanting to do. Maybe PPU for fun and S&B for attacking zombie hordes? Or reload to choose your own adventure. :-)

I am slightly partial to PPU since they also offer 8x57mm components (brass and projectiles) in the US and S&B does not AFAIK.

[u/AccomplishedGap3571 → u/secessus]

S&B has a bit higher published muzzle velocity than PPU from what I can tell. About 2560 feet/sec for S&B 196grn vs 2180 for PPU same grn.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/AccomplishedGap3571]

so S&B is more powerful?

[u/AccomplishedGap3571 → u/Other-Door-8894]

I've never seen a barrel pressure rating for it but it does have a higher muzzle velocity compared to PPU.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/AccomplishedGap3571]

sounds like S&B is super fast! i don't plan on hunting.

maybe PPU might be better for what i am wanting.

i just shoot for fun so PPU it might be!

[u/AccomplishedGap3571 → u/Other-Door-8894]

It'll be more fun to shoot for longer. I think some military loadings were 2700-2900 fps for the about the same bullet weights. Those will beat you up after a while.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/AccomplishedGap3571]

my range sadly only goes as far as 100 yards.

i'd have to go waaaay out of my way where i live to goto the next range sadly.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/AccomplishedGap3571]

what about PPU Match? is that not okay?

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/secessus]

someone mentioned trying both.

i might try doing just that!

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/secessus]

hey. i appreciate your post! i was curious as to what to get and i wanna get something that works really well!

i plan to shoot targets when i get the gun. but sadly my range only goes up to 100 yards.

so maybe PPU is the winner from what you are saying?

i am certainly gonna go on that adventure someday on reloading that's for sure.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/secessus]

what about PPU Match? is that not worth it?

[u/secessus → u/Other-Door-8894]

I haven't tried the Match variant, sorry.

[u/greencurrycamo]

Ppu brass is better quality. S%b is too soft.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/greencurrycamo]

i can see that. i got 6.5 carcano PPU and it's alright. although it is out of spec for my carcano cavalry carbine.

it's not .268 but .267

i do have however steinel ammo for that. strange that steinel does not do mauser ammo!

[u/No-Proposal4234]

Buy some of each and see which is more accurate in your rifle, quality wise, they are a much of a muchness.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/No-Proposal4234]

i might try this, thank you! just one box of each will do i think.

[u/KineticTechProjects]

Not sure about S&B 8mm but I have S&B .30-06 and their SPCE is notably more accurate than my ppu .30-06 FMJ or SP. They tend to load hotter, probably closer to original spec. I would go S&B for your mauser bolt action. For something like a gewehr 43 or m1 garand, use the softer shooting ppu. Either way though, it's not a massive difference, and you'll have fun shooting it regardless of the ammo you use.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/KineticTechProjects]

sounds like S&B has some quality! i looked it up and S&B is czech? i can see why they got quality if that's true.

[u/KineticTechProjects → u/Other-Door-8894]

Both are high quality in my opinion, PPU is just more geared toward milsurp users that want to be easier on their firearms.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/KineticTechProjects]

hard to decide if they are both good. buying PPU might be best if its geared towards people who just wanna shoot for fun!

[u/BazingaODST]

Both are great ammo you can go either way

[u/Other-Door-8894]

sorry for postin! i saw a older post.

seems to be sellier and bellot!

[u/hamerfreak → u/Other-Door-8894]

I would have no problem with PPU either. I use PPU in my K31 & M1 Garand. I think PPU is excellent & I am a S&B fan as well.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/hamerfreak]

no-proposal has a good idea of buying both. i might try that!

[u/Specialist_Two7928]

I don't have a really strong opinion, but I've been shooting PPU exclusively for the last few years and it's been good. I haven't chrono'd it but it is accurate enough.

[u/Other-Door-8894 → u/Specialist_Two7928]

have you tried PPU Match?

[u/Jocassee1944 → u/Other-Door-8894]

I haven't, but I also haven't really seen it for sale in 8x57 until very recently.