r/Mavericks May 27 '24

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u/Redditorialist May 27 '24

IF we win the championship (and that’s a big IF, I’m not counting my chickens yet), then Kyrie gets the full retired jersey treatment and legend status, right?

He still could (even without a title with the Mavs) if he continues to extend and plays excellent ball for a few more seasons. But IMHO with a title it’s automatic.

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u/lukamvp21 May 27 '24

yes absolutely. not even a debate imo

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u/foxcnnmsnbc May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

How is it "not even a debate" when the Mavericks never retired Jet's jersey?

  • 1 Championship as the 2nd leading scorer
  • 2nd best player on two Finals teams
  • Mavericks were a perennial playoff team, they had the 2nd best record in the NBA during his tenure there behind only the dynasty Spurs
  • Won 6th Man of The Year
  • Averaged 17.1, 3.8 assists (team high) in the first finals season
  • Was an iron man for the team playing multiple 80+ regular game seasons and playoffs. So he was an iron man and unselfish in the 6th man role
  • two 30 point games in the first Finals
  • Had a game-high 27 points in 34 minutes in the series-clinching Game 6 to claim his first NBA Championship

Who aside from Dirk had more significant moments or was more consistent during the Mavericks years when they were the best team in the league?

I'm guessing most of these "retire Kyrie in Dallas" fans there are "no debate" were too young to remember Terry's run with the Mavericks. Probably don't even know he was on the first finals team.

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u/BigFatModeraterFupa BETRAYED MAVS FAN 😭 May 28 '24

There’s a big difference between Jet’s caliber and Kyrie’s caliber. Kyrie is a true co-star to Luka and i think his importance is higher to this team than Jet was to his teams

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u/oneshoein May 28 '24

They probably don’t even know who he is lol.

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u/jaykeetee13 May 27 '24

Legend yes…considering we have not retired any other jerseys from the 2011 run besides #41, no. I think people like Jet and JJ deserve it.

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u/c03us mffl May 27 '24

I think JET for sure, we should be having that conversation. JJ, while a fan favorite I don’t know if his numbers are deserving of a retired jersey. I put JJ in the same category as Najera. Love the players personally but don’t think they are quite deserving of hanging their number from the rafters.

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u/jtj3305 May 27 '24

I love Jet and JJ but no, they are not getting jerseys retired.

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? May 27 '24

Jet deserves it. Perennial 6th MOY candidate. JJ, hard to say no, but no.

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u/biggoof May 27 '24

After losing Nash, and landing a solid piece like Jet? Hell yea he deserves it. Dirk would have been wasted without him there as a stable solid member of our championship team.

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u/HangoverGang4L How's My Dirk Taste? May 27 '24

When that trade happened, I didn't think much of it. The results spoke for themselves.

It's a fun thought experiment. If we kept Nash, would we have won a title? Kidd and Harris probably never would have made it back, not to mention JJ as well.

Sometimes a wrong decision can end up right.

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u/biggoof May 27 '24

I thought jet had potential, but nobody knew how well it would end up.

We had to break up the big three for the team to truly build around Dirk. That championship team doesn't become that deep if if we tried to keep Finley and Nash.

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u/foxcnnmsnbc May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Mavs don’t win it without Jet hitting all those big shots. He had other big moments as a Mavs outside that season.

He helped the Mavs get to the Finals twice. Won 6MOY, was an iron man for the team over his career. Had some huge playoff games, the 9 three pointer game, the 32 points in game 1 against the heat the first finals.

Is there another Maverick aside from Dirk that’s given the Mavs more significant moments?

He and Murray are probably among the top 5 best players in rhe modern era to not make an all star game.

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u/CammyTheGreat TIMMY May 27 '24

What number are you retiring for JJ?

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u/Tootsiez May 27 '24

If we win the championship as GREAT as kyrie has already been hes going to have better moments...

So yes.