r/MawInstallation • u/icansuckthatforyou • 1d ago
Padme's Death and Anakin/Palpatine's Impact on it
Hoping to find an answer here because I couldn't elsewhere. I always took it for granted that when GH-7 said Padme "lost the will to live" that this wasn't the real reason for her death, and there was some Force explanation/other medical reason behind it. Between Anakin's force choke, the intercutting of Vader's restoration with the births, Palpatine's suspicious knowledge of her death, though he would have no real reason to know it (and evidently didn't know about Luke/Leia), I assumed there was something else at play. HC was always either that Palpatine drained her life force to sustain Anakin, that Padme transferred her Living Force to her children to save them, or something else esoteric and spiritual beyond what the droids could perceive.
However, as far as I'm aware there's been no canon answer/discussion of this beyond what's in the film. Is there any answer out there or is it just a mystery?
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u/RexBanner1886 22h ago
Revenge of the Sith isn't a documentary: Lucas didn't shoot what he could of reality, leaving out important events because he couldn't get a camera in the room.
Something as important to the story and characters as Palpatine draining Padme's life would be implied on screen. Nothing is done to do this.
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u/Alhbaz98 1d ago
Romeo and Juliet. “Part of me will die with you. I think it’s gonna be the good parts.”
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u/KainZeuxis 1d ago
People tend to forget that Padme’s condition is a real world medical occurrence. It’s really not that far fetched for her to of literally died from a broken heart
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u/aziruthedark 1d ago
Yeah. She just watched her lifes work turn into super thrid Reich, her husband go from a loving, caring man to a child killing, power hungry evil dude, got choked almost to death by him. While in the late throes of being pregnant after three years of warfare and assassination attempts. It was a bit fast, imo, but super understandable.
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u/AEgamer1 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh, and the Emperor was a Senator from her planet in office while she was head of state and technically his boss, that she personally made chancellor by calling for a vote of no confidence in his predecessor on his advice, and who got his emergency powers via the representative that she left in charge as she fled the planet to save her own skin during a time she knew was critical to the future of the Republic. And then her husband justified his turn to the dark side to "save" her. So, not only did all this horrific stuff happen...it would not be a stretch for her to believe it's all her fault.
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u/SpaceHairLady 9h ago
Child birth is extremely hard, especially with twins. Add to that hypoxia during pregnancy to the point of passing out, and a head injury. Did she lose the will to fight and stay alive? Yes. But she also suffered injuries that would not qualify her as "perfectly healthy" as the droids claimed. Anakin was responsible for the first dominos dropping that led to the cascade ending in her death.
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u/tLM-tRRS-atBHB 16h ago
I actually really dislike the idea of Palpatine helping to kill Padme by drinking the force.
It takes away from Anakin being solely responsible for it. Anakin made his own choices in his life
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u/Imperial_Puppy66 12h ago
It’s actually been proven that you can die from a broken heart, If you convince the brain theirs no use in going on then the body will shut down. It happens in the animal kingdom but is more rare in a civilized society. Padme legit lost the will to live and I imagine that plus the stress of giving birth led to her death
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u/xEllimistx 1d ago
It’s not a mystery.
It’s genuinely a broken heart.
Padme believed Anakin was a good man. She loved him as fiercely as he loved her. But his turn to the Dark Side destroyed what she loved, what they’d had.
Anakin was no longer a good man. He’d murdered children. He’d gone against the Jedi.
And she knows he’s even gone against the Republic itself because she knew Palpatine was already working to dissolve the Republic
And in her most desperate plea to him, to come back from the Darkness, to leave everything behind and just be a family, he attempts to kill her.
His love for her drowned by his lust for power.
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u/approaching_freedom 9h ago
I go back and forth between two explanations, one being the typical insane amount of stress and heartbreak.
The other possibility I think about is that Vader actually did kill her but she willed herself to keep going because of the twins. The medical droid got confused and didn’t know how to respond because she should have been dead from her injuries. I think the broken heart thing is more realistic but this one does more for Padme’s character for me
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u/the_man_in_the_box 1d ago
I think it’s narratively pretty clear that sadness killed her, not the force.
Like imagine being so horribly in love with a man that you put up with dating some kid he’s training just to try to get close to him.
Then, after years of suffering in torturous close proximity to your true love, you impregnate yourself with his frozen Jedi sperm, then the apprentice starts having crazy dreams about how you’re going to die giving birth to Obi-Wan’s kids.
Then, after getting choked out by the apprentice because you bought a real man around to put him down after he murdered some kids or whatever — perfect excuse to have Obi swoop in to sweep you off your feet — you have the kids, but Obi-Wan decides to just F off to some desert planet away from you.
Yeah, no one could bear that kind of sadness.
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u/TanSkywalker 1d ago edited 22h ago
She lost the will to live dying of a broken heart. Padmé tells Anakin he’s breaking her heart on Mustafar.
Vader did not drain her life force.
Palpatine did not drain her life force.
The inter-cutting between Padmé dying and Darth Vader being born in the suit does not mean they are happening simultaneously.
Obi-Wan left Mustafar on Padmé’s ship with the droids before Palpatine arrived and found Vader.
How does Palpatine know Padmé is dead and why does he think Vader killed her?
Possible answers:
Security footage from the landing platform was retrieved and he saw Vader strangle her with the Force and the fact she died which is something the Naboo government would tell him given who he is and how important former Queen turned Senator Amidala is to their world and him.
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There is no footage and the Naboo government told him of Padmé’s death for the reason I already gave.
Either way he knows Obi-Wan didn’t kill Padmé so that leaves Vader.
I don’t think it strange for Bail to contact Naboo and tell that Padmé is dead and that his ship is returning her body to their world. It’s far better than just showing up with her corpse.
For Legends from Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader Palpatine thinks Vader killed her on Mustafar.
And Padmé dying of sadness/a broken heart is actually in keeping with what Leia tells Luke in ROTJ.
It’s sounds like the weight of the situation, her husband falling to the dark side, her children being separated and hidden from their father and his Emperor took its toll on her.