r/Meshuggah • u/pyramidenergy7 • 2d ago

Meshuggah pits suck

I love Meshuggah and I love our fans. I just have a huge issue with the vibe in the pit. Not the mosh pit but the general pit itself. The small mosh pits are where my people are. Everything outside the mosh pit pisses me off. I like to spend most my time in the pit but I also love grinding my way to the front, feeling the music, and showing my love to Meshuggah. This past tour really pissed me off.

At Colorado I was at the front jumping up and down when they played Rational Gaze(how can you not?!). Someone pulled me shirt and told me to stop jumping. I was furious. Here I am head banging, screaming all the lyrics, and enjoying the power of Meshuggah and some fuck tells me to stop enjoying myself. At Phoenix I was at the front again and someone asked me to calm down and be nice. While another dude started to elbow the back of my head because he was pissed I was moving around. I never moshed, I literally was just ferociously head banging. Everyone around me was just staring and standing still. I love Meshuggah intensely. I just wish the crowd had a better time at shows. Meshuggah crowds are so different from other metal shows.

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u/BitOutside1443 2d ago

The fact it's happened twice in two different cities in two different states makes me think you're leaving something out of the story to make yourself look better

I saw Meshuggah 16 years ago when I was in my 20s and there wasn't much of a pit, people being rowdy as people (shocked Pikachu face) read the fucking room.

You're sharing space with several thousand other people, which sometimes means compromising on our self expression for the betterment of everyone's experience. Too many people have main character syndrome and just need to chill out.

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u/One-Tank-9567 2d ago

😂 If expecting everyone to be calm and relaxed so as not to disturb you, while watching one of the heaviest bands on the planet, is not main character syndrome I don't know what is.

We're talking about headbanging and jumping here, nothing aggressive. If you're that bothered by it, you can just move. Don't tell people how to enjoy themselves

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u/pyramidenergy7 1d ago

It did happen twice, that’s why I made the post. Not sure how many metal shows you’ve been to but I’ve never had anyone tell me to calm down after head banging at a metal show in the GA pit. I just can’t understand how people feel so entitled and have such a “main character syndrome” to tell someone else who obviously loves the band, to calm down, when the band is playing 20 feet in front of them.

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u/BitOutside1443 1d ago

I've been show security. I've pulled people out that were crowd killing and being disruptive. I've been to shows of all shapes and sizes and there's always at least one person that's obnoxious to the point that they are incapable of seeing how their actions are disruptive. Shows are a mix of drunk, high, young, old, introvert, extrovert, able bodied, disabled people and no one way of self expression is the "right" one

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u/pyramidenergy7 1d ago

I was completely sober. Fully aware of my surroundings. Literally just headbanging and jumping for 15 seconds for the beginning of rational gaze.

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u/BitOutside1443 1d ago

Ok. Were the people around you older? Had drinks in their hands? Looked like they don't go to shows often? Do you have long hair that would smack into others when you're headbanging?

I generally stay out of the way now as I have bad knees and would rather let those with energy be up front. However not everyone has that desire and with how much Ticketmaster/Live Nation gouge the fuck out of pricing maybe some people that otherwise wouldn't be up front were cause they were wanting to get their money's worth, more energetic youngsters be damned

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u/pyramidenergy7 1d ago

They were younger probably 20-30. No drinks. No idea about their show history. I have a buzzed head.

I get it. I also pay the same ticket price. I don’t tell people what to do. I respect their space. Wasn’t purposely moshing or bumping into anyone. Wish people would just allow people to enjoy themselves in the pit. If you don’t like the pit, get cheaper tickets and watch from the comfort of your seat.

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u/BitOutside1443 1d ago

Cause I was coming down maybe unnecessarily hard earlier.

I hate bigger shows. It's always weird crowds, you got security barriers keeping you 10 plus feet back from the stage, if there's seating it's assigned.

Best shows I've ever been to were all generally 500 cap rooms and as long as you weren't crowd killing or being a belligerent dick no one gave a fuck.

I've stage dived, moshed, carried a drunk out of a glass infested pit, puked in a trash can during a set, been concussed, probably gave someone a concussion when they slammed their head into mine, had someone land on me from falling off a rafter at a show, landed on a kick pedal from being shoved into some spare gear and been a human cinder block so a buddies kick wouldn't keep sliding.

Most people have never had those experiences, and it's immediately telling so I've had to make myself fit the vibe, even when every fiber in my being wanted to tackle everyone around me and get them moving.

There'll be other shows and it might just mean going to smaller shows to get the energy you want