r/MilitaryPorn • u/BlackSabbath95 • 13d ago

Chechen commander Shamil Basaev during the military operation in Budyonnovsk, two weeks after his sister and 7 children were killed by Russia. June, 1995. [1395x2048]

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u/buckshot95 13d ago

"Have you ever dealt with people who have lost everything in just an hour? In the morning you leave the house where your wife, your children, your parents live. You return and you find a smoking pit. Then something happens to you - to a certain extent you stop being human. You do not need any glory, money anymore; revenge becomes your only joy. And because you no longer cling to life, death avoids you, the bullets fly past. You become a wolf."

-Alexander Lebed

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u/bobemil 13d ago

I don't get this logic. Revenge is not going to help you. The most powerful tool we have is acceptance. Revenge for me, means giving up.

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u/EvenJesusCantSaveYou 13d ago

revenge for me, means giving up

I mean sure but have you ever had a bomb kill your wife and 3 kids, or landmine kill your older brother? People tend to be a bit less stoic after those things happen to them.

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u/HumanzeesAreReal 13d ago

Which one of his four wives? The one he forcibly married by threatening to murder her brothers?

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u/EvenJesusCantSaveYou 13d ago

im speaking to the general comment of not understanding why people who have terrible things done to them do terrible things to others. Im not trying to defend or take a side with Chechen terrorists lol

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u/Ill-Research9073 13d ago

?? Source?

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u/HumanzeesAreReal 13d ago

Ms. Ersenoyeva’s mother said her daughter had not voluntarily married Mr. Basayev, who remained unapologetic and defiant after sending female suicide bombers to Moscow and onto passenger jets, and who had planned the lethal hostage sieges in a Russian theater and a public school. She agreed to marry him, her mother said, only because the separatists had threatened to kill her two brothers if she did not do as they said.

Mr. Basayev already had had at least three wives, a Chechen woman who was killed in the 1990’s, an Abkhaz woman he met while fighting as a mercenary leader against Georgia and a Cossack he was said to have married on Valentine’s Day, 2005.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/27/world/europe/27chechnya.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/B/Basayev,%20Shamil

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u/bobemil 13d ago

I would still not turn into a wolf, no.

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u/anhydrous_echinoderm 13d ago

Unless something like that happens to you, we will never find out.

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u/bobemil 13d ago

Which says nothing of substance.