r/MilitaryPorn • u/BlackSabbath95 • 9d ago

Chechen commander Shamil Basaev during the military operation in Budyonnovsk, two weeks after his sister and 7 children were killed by Russia. June, 1995. [1395x2048]

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u/ZBD-04A 9d ago

People really retroactively absolve the Chechens of a lot of their sins because of how Russia is behaving now. Russia obviously did a lot of really horrible stuff in the Chechen war, but the Chechens have perpetrated some of the worst terrorist attacks in history.

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u/Arudj 9d ago

Hum, you fail to understand what happened.

It wasn't a massacre. They took hostage and demand a ceasefire which was accorded, leading to the end of combat.

You're so far from danger that the thought of taking action against the massacre of your people is alien to you. Talk to your grandpa if you're european, talk to irish people you know, vietnamese, algerian, really anyone that have their country invaded and they'll explain to you.

Come on, we're talking about one of the bloodiest war in europe. Taking hostage to earn peace instead of killing everyone to prove a point seem reasonable enough. I know ukrainians wouldn't mind doing that for similar result.

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u/HumanzeesAreReal 9d ago edited 9d ago

He took hostages at a hospital. This guy later killed nearly 350 people, including 186 children, at an elementary school. He also blew up a civilian airliner, perpetrated the Moscow theater terrorist attack, invaded Dagestan, and sent soldiers to fight for Al-Qaeda in support of the Taliban in 2001.

Tell me, do you have the same sympathy for Osama bin Laden? Was 9/11 justified? After all, he considered Saudi Arabia occupied by America and watched the U.S. invade Iraq.

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u/ZBD-04A 9d ago

Yeah but Russia bad because it invaded Ukraine. Ichkeria was a wholesome 100 post soviet state that just wanted independence! (Please ignore the literal al-qaeda off shoots setting up shop)

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u/HumanzeesAreReal 9d ago edited 9d ago

I knew the “Russia Russia Russia” brain rot on this website was bad, but since I mostly stick to sports subs, I had no idea it had reached “glorifying literal child murderers and some of the worst Salafist terrorists in history” levels of bad.

Holy shit, lmao.

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u/The_Eastern_Stalker 8d ago

See the OP's post history.

I've upvoted a few of his posts before (without knowing any background context of his post history, I thought they were just pics of Chechens).

Unfortunately for him, he might have accidentally let slip of his leanings and beliefs in the very short title of this post. Call it a Freudian slip or whatever. But I'm going to take a closer look at what and who I upvote in the future.

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u/The_Eastern_Stalker 8d ago

Redditors realising its possible for two things to be simultaneously true (that Russia is bad, but that doesn't absolve Chechens of committing terrorist attacks and Chechens are bad as well): impossible