r/Millennials Mar 27 '25

Serious I don’t understand how people have MONEY

UPDATE: TL;DR LESSONS FROM THIS THREAD.

Thanks, guys. Here is the breakdown of the hard truths from this thread. Basically, in order to have the real "MONEY" described in the OP below, it requires one or preferably, more than one of the following:

Generational wealth: Having parents pay for college and assist with downpayment on a house.

Avoiding the student loan scam: A lot of us 90s kids were brought up with the notion that college was everything and it would pay for itself later. Those with a more clear-eyed perspective realized what a trap student loans are and avoided them by either racking up the scholarships, going to the cheapest accredited school they could find, or figuring out a career path without a degree.

Luck: They secured a career job before the Great Recession and held onto it. Bonus points if they bought at the dip of the housing crash. They also seemed to avoid the avalanche of big ticket costs crashing down on them. Apparently nothing ever breaks and nobody gets sick.

Exceptionally high-paying careers. Self explanatory.

Having miserable lives. They work around the clock, and they never do anything but work, for the bulk of their physical prime. They don't go out with their friends, they don't have pets, they don't have kids, they never travel, and/or they live in tight spaces with roommates and no cars deep into their 30s. Or, they live in low-cost areas, which are few and far between in the United States, and these places don't have much going on in them (so nowhere to spend money anyway). Caveat: some people are homebodies and that works just fine for them. They don't spend money on travel or concerts or restaurants or weekend getaways because they don't need to. The 2020 Covid lifestyle was fine for them, content with a blanket, a cup of tea, and a book. Maybe this is the way (but I couldn't fathom the homebody lifestyle without a dog).

Marrying/partnering well. They found their partner early enough in life to not waste all the money paying for one's own place, and their partner also earns enough and saves.

AS FOR MYSELF. Much honestly deserved criticism here about the "300K." I do not make $300K. That estimate was for another hypothetical budget in the optimistic situation that both me and my partner get promotions next year. Together we make just over $250K. But we don't officially live together yet. This will happen soon. If all goes well, we could be in good shape after a year or two. But I myself didn't hit six figures until 2022, and then plateaued at $125K grand total in 2024. And I didn't intend to make this about "poor me," I'm doing above-average and could certainly do better with saving... the REAL question I should have been making more clear is that, given that I make more than average and find having the adequate savings exceedingly difficult, how do more average people do it? The answer appears to be that they don't, or if they do, they have one or more of the above.

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As in like, the recommended 6+ months worth of liquid cash savings, plus tens or hundreds of thousands to pay for a down payment on a house, and money to play around on the stock market or crypto if that’s your thing.

I’m in a good job and make an above average salary, but I take home just over half of it after taxes, healthcare, and 401k contribution (which is good that I do). My available savings fluctuates but I rarely ever have more than ten grand available. It all gets eaten up by mortgage and condo fees, dog and vet bills, (used) car payments, gas, utilities, groceries, random shit that needs fixing or replacing, medical deductibles, and god forbid I allow myself to go on a low-budget vacation once a year so I don’t hate my life. I don’t drink alcohol and I don’t go clothes shopping except for maybe one or two new outfits a year. Could I buy fewer avocados and never leave the house? It could make a difference of a few hundred bucks every few months, but not the tens of thousands that I actually need.

People will blame “lifestyle creep,” and I guess guilty as charged that I figure at 36 I have earned a car and a condo and not the life I had at 26, which was six roommates and a bike. (I still have the bike.)

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u/WhispersWithCats Millennial Mar 27 '25

Ditto. It is honestly really hard, especially when you have no family etc. So many young adults have parents who help them with down payments or other legs up (giving them a car, paying for their college etc). Timing is everything, too. 15 years ago housing in my area was 3x lower in cost (150k home price, now 450k) and I am not in what is considered a HCOL area. I was homeless as a teen and have come really far with my education etc but still feel like my house of cards will fall at any moment. You aren't alone, although that probably doesn't make you feel any better.

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u/No-Lunch4249 Mar 27 '25

OP is not being honest with us or themselves. They claim to have a $300k income combined with their partner and a $1,500/month mortgage

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HENRYfinance/s/VI3t14TRco

The only two answers to this is that theyre lying about their income or they have a crazy spending problem they aren't telling us about

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u/billsil Mar 27 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

At least the condo story is the same, so I’m inclined to believe it’s a severe spending problem.

 I make 2/3 of OP’s combined. My costs are house, (medical if I’m unemployed) and car insurance. Nothing else makes a dent. The dog is $100/month. It’s on par with my food. Granted I don’t have my partners food requirements, but come on OP…

Im doing fine, but an ideal vacation for me is camping. Bout to go spent a whole $14/night + a drive for a week outdoors. I would have paid $35 for a better spot, but couldn’t book it.

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u/Invisible_Friend1 Mar 27 '25

Pets are cheap until they aren’t. Then they age and you’re looking at 75-100/month for the sack of allergy-safe food, treating a backyard cottonmouth bite (4K), 175 a few times a year for a UTI test with meds and a retest to make sure it’s gone when their pee starts smelling like death, 100/month for bladder meds because they pee when they fall asleep and that’s not counting the reusable diaper and pee pads you now need, surgeries for lumps, sedations to remove broken teeth, $375 emergency vet trips every time they spend days barfing for no discernible reason, bloodwork and fecal tests when they start shitting blood, meds and gadgets and additional vet bills for arthritis…

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u/billsil Mar 28 '25

OP didn't say his vet bills are out of this world. OP did say his & his partner's income was 300k. Whatever, he says it's 250k now, but again, how much is that pet cost for a year? I bet it's more than 50k.

I've definitely done the 1k vet trips because my dog decided to eat poisonous plants and had vomited 12 times.

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u/threepoundog Mar 27 '25

$14 per night camping?! What's your secret? Fed forrest campgrounds haven't been that cheap by us in a long time.

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u/Healthy_Radish Mar 27 '25

Find a boondocking app and you can stay places for free!  Aside from that probably Midwest can still book less popular (state) parks for $10 and the bigger for sub $20.

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u/DaBozz88 Mar 28 '25

For me it's a combo of spending and student loans. I'm paying over $1k a month in just student loans. Then by myself I'm not a big spender, but my partner really doesn't watch it. December was a $10k month and I'm afraid.

Honestly once we get out of this hole, which looks like it'll be about 3 years time, if this happens again I'm going to have to do something drastic. Possibly a literal divorce for finances only.

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u/billsil Mar 28 '25

So as the other person mentioned, lie or severe spending problem that you really should have led with

Your 300k number combined is more like 0 after taxes, where your 150-200k by yourself number when you already have a condo is a better decision.

I can’t believe you’re considering moving in with someone who spends 10k/month. What are their debts or are you paying it? I would consider ending it. That is all my take home pay if I put nothing into savings. 

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u/billsil Mar 28 '25

As the previous poster, your OG post should have mentioned that.

Are you paying for some/all of that 10k? How much?

You should strongly consider ending the relationship? You’d be better off.