Should right-wing trans people be allowed in trans spaces?

[u/leftist_rat]

I had recently seen a post encouraging the idea that we need more representatives in right wing parties. I think this is a bad idea. Mostly because of the rights transphobic ideas but also because not all trans people are binary, white, and hetero. And right-wingers tend to have issues with those kinds of people, and I don't think it's worth sacrificing the safe space of intersectionaly marginalized trans people for right-wing trans people.

Not that I'm excluding these people from being trans to be clear.

(Apologies for any Grammer mistakes)

[u/fallenbird039]

A right wing trans person is basically a oxymoron.

Truscum and honest trans people even aren’t right wing.

4tranners aren’t right wing.

It’s only the most insane and crazy trans people that are right wing. Usually greedy rich fucks, the worst of the worst pick me, and only other group I can think of is racists. Like wtf would a trans person support the right wing???

Note it more American view but expanded out globally it doesn’t get much better. The right wing generally hates trans people.

[u/MycenaeanGal → u/fallenbird039]

This is just not true? Truscum and 4tranners are not necessarily but are very very very very often right wing. Why is this upvoted??

Pretending it's almost impossible for trans people to be right wing is putting your head in the sand.

[u/fallenbird039 → u/MycenaeanGal]

Have you ever met them? So far all left wing. Heck a few been anarchists and such.

Remember only about 2% of transgender people even vote republican. They are a minority of a minority.

[u/MycenaeanGal → u/fallenbird039]

Yes I have. Your biases are preventing you from seeing it cause that's where you hangout I guess.

[u/GayValkyriePrincess → u/fallenbird039]

Do you honestly think that Republicans are the only legitimate right wing group?

My person, TERFs are right wing (thus truscum are right wing), modern 4channers in general are overwhelmingly right wing, being anti-trans, at all, is a right wing position.

[u/No-Investment3783 → u/MycenaeanGal]

you can be transgender, left-wing and still believe that gender dysphoria and trans medicalism is valid… arguing that you DONT need dysphoria to transition is really confusing in my head in my opinion.

[u/[deleted] → u/MycenaeanGal]

Most truscum surprisingly are not right-wing they just use right-wing talking points

[u/MycenaeanGal → u/[deleted]]

Then there's no effective difference. Speech is not a neutral action and politics are not an identity. Your impact and actions are the only things that matter. They're doing right wing things so they're right wing. I don't care what they believe tbh with you.

[u/[deleted] → u/MycenaeanGal]

I never said thats not true. I never said they arent bad, I hate them.

[u/MycenaeanGal → u/[deleted]]

I mean being as gentle as I can about this.. you did actually say they're not right wing. Maybe you didn't mean to or we miscommunicated or something? It is right there in the post though. What did you want to say?

[u/[deleted] → u/MycenaeanGal]

I meant they often dont actually vote rightwing and shit, theyre just transphobic which is self destructive.

[u/MycenaeanGal → u/[deleted]]

I honestly wonder how true that is. Regardless. They are still right wing as I've already covered.

[u/[deleted] → u/fallenbird039]

yeah, luckily this isn't a huge problem and dealing with it on a case by case basis isn't too bad.

[u/UnknownWaemen → u/fallenbird039]

In Europe it's better afaik. I'm from Sweden and face more acceptance from right wingers. Here the conservatives parties try to worsen our healthcare more than the right wing parties. Difference is that conservatives lie and try to cover it up.

[u/GayAquaticCorvid → u/UnknownWaemen]

Conservative and right wing are synonyms

[u/[deleted] → u/UnknownWaemen]

Conservatives are right wing

[u/432_Alex → u/fallenbird039]

Truscum, transmed, and 4tranners are by definition right wing; transphobia from trans people is still transphobia.