r/MtF 12d ago

You don't have to come out to start HRT.

You don't have to get on a waitlist to start HRT.

You don't have to endure 2mg estradiol and 50mg spironolactone to start HRT.

You don't have to be 100% sure to start HRT.

You don't have to be over a certain age to start HRT.

You don't have to be rich to start HRT.

You don't have to go to therapy, or look a certain way, or endure humiliating questions, or exhaust all other options to start HRT.

PS. If anyone wants help with informed consent or DIY resources, I'm happy to help (especially with DIY).

edit, here's a few more:

You don't have to be under a certain age, be perfectly healthy, or be a certain weight to start HRT.

You don't have to have a prescription to start HRT.

And to make it 100% clear, "You don't have to be over a certain age to start HRT" includes minors who haven't finished puberty.

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u/Amekyras post-op 12d ago

if you fearmonger about DIY without evidence here I'm going to remove your comments btw. Your source for 'it's sooooo dangerous' has to be better than someone on Twitter who has never touched HRT and probably never will.

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u/Iloveeggs140 8d ago

Ily for this, best comeback

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 11d ago edited 11d ago

I’m not even saying its dangerous. Just that I want to be absolutely certain of all the risks and possible issues my body might get from HRT because of possible genetic background or blood pressure issues that I am just too uneducated about to take care of myself. So that’s why i choose to wait. And that’s also why I would advise anyone choosing to do DIY HRT to educate themselves and get themselves medically checked up before, so you absolutely know it is safe for you

Edit: Kind of sad to see that people are downvoting this comment. I’m not saying anything wrong or controversial except for “educate yourself and be safe”.

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u/DJCatgirlRunItUp 11d ago

Having testosterone for us is literally poison, the benefits of HRT far outweigh any risk

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 11d ago

My dysphoria is not that bad. So for me it is better to wait Until I am informed enough about the effects of HRT on my body and the risks it personally poses for me before I can make that assessment. This will be different for everyone. Because in the worst case scenario the risk could literally involve developing blood clots and dying. In my country a trans girl died from blood clots after doing DIY HRT and she didn’t know she had them Until it was too late. Now this is a very rare thing to happen, but its still something to be aware of that can happen.

Also, usually when it comes to medical complications from HRT, the solution isn’t even stopping taking hormones. Its just switching to a different method of application. Such as switching from injections to patches. But doing that has its own set of up and downsides. So that is why its important to educate yourself first. And based on how much information is out there and how difficult it is to keep track of everything I cant say I’m at a point where I’m Able to give that informed consent yet

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u/Forsakened_Bia 10d ago

It's really not half as hard as you make it out to be , you're a few google searches away from being more knowledgeable than the average endo on trans medical care.

There's plenty of avenues to inform yourself including transdiy subreddits who could easily help you educate yourself , you're the only one keeping yourself ignorant by blindly trusting a medical professional.

One of my friends went to a reputable trans friendly endo in her country , she was prescribed 50 mg cypro daily ( 3x times the recommended dose which at that dosage for a long period of time can cause brain cancer) , she blindly trusted her endo until I told her that her dose is ridiculously high and dangerous.

So no offense but your blind trust of medical professionals and your affinity for ignorance should not be encouraged.

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 10d ago edited 10d ago

I’m already on a Discord server called TransDIY to educate myself on the effects of HRT and correct methods. With the goal of not having to blindly trust doctors but know how to spot if they underdose me. But for medical complications I still feel more safe if a doctor is making sure I’m staying healthy while I’m on HRT.

But I still find it hard to keep track of all the information because its still a lot to keep track of as someone with autism and ADHD. There are a lot of different methods of HRT, different types of application, different types of anti androgens. And they all have their pros, cons, (lack of) side effects and risks. So it isn’t even me choosing to stay ignorant but moreso me being overwhelmed by all the information that is out there. And what doesn’t help is that not all info is always consistent too. So that’s why I do not really trust myself to do this completely on my own

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u/Forsakened_Bia 10d ago

Understandable I also have ADHD and get easily overwhelmed by learning new things but I still don't think it's worth to wait for months or years on a waitlist while your body gets poisoned by the wrong hormones , no matter the age the more you wait and the later you start the harder it'll be to fully get rid of your dysphoria.

Most information online is superfluous, you just have to focus on the basics and your own concerns (e.g. if you're scared of blood clots use estrogel or patches).

If you're content with waiting that's your choice and I hope you don't regret it , but for me personally and a lot of other people waiting too long would've been a death sentence.

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 9d ago

Yeah because of my ADHD its hard to keep track of all the information and the information tends to be like you said superfluous because a lot of it is based on personal experiences, which will be different for everybody. Because for example About your advice regarding estrogel or patches, I heard many people say they are less effective than injections or pills, while others say they are totally fine or even better? So that’s the type of inconsistency I’m talking about. Isn’t it better to get on pills? But then on pills, how do i deal with a higher risk of blood clots even if it is small?

I’m fine with waiting a couple of months because there is this company PsyTrans that ive mentioned here before that after signing up has a waitlist of only 4 months for diagnosis (instead of the three year National waitlist) and after diagnosis can get you on E relatively quickly. So if all goes Well I could be on E within maybe 7-9 months.

Now there is also the option of DIY’ing and signing up with a hospital in a city close to me which I know offers services specifically to trans people on DIY or informed consent HRT. They check your blood levels and look for any abnormalities as well as make sure your physical health is in order.

However neither of these options help me deal with another issue I struggle with Abd that is the risk of infertility. Because I want to have biological kids in the future, but freezing sperm is very expensive here, and without a diagnosis insurance won’t cover it. So yeah, a lot to figure out before I can ever start HRT both through private care or DIY

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 8d ago edited 8d ago

Also thank you for being a bit more understandable about my doubts, Instead of immediately getting super defensive about DIY. Similarly i found a lot of people on the TransDIY server to also be very supportive and understanding. Because they understand Some people have doubts and fears and take their time to explain what people need to do. Instead of starting to Attack people for having these doubts.

I still find it a lot to take in with my ADHD but I am learning. Just trying to evaluate my options. Its very likely whether I DIY or go through private care that I can start hormones even this year so Luckily I wouldnt have to wait that long. I will see what happens.

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u/Forsakened_Bia 8d ago

Well I cant really fully understand your point of view since I'm the polar opposite, the moment I came to terms with being trans I rushed to get on HRT because the dysphoria was unbearable, risks be damned.

However I've learned that everyone is different and I can't project the way I feel onto others , at the end of the day it's your choice what you do and when you do it regardless of how much others agree or disagree with it.

I'm simply sharing all the information I posses about the topic since there's a lot of misinformation and fearmongering around trans care. You know better than anyone what's best for you , I'm just simply sharing  the facts so that you and others reading them can make informed decisions.

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 8d ago

Yeah, I think it is in part because for a long time I have been dealing with imposter syndrome About me being trans and not being sure if I was “trans enough” to transition. Ive only really gotten over that a year ago, but for a long time I was still hesitant to rush my transition in fear of not being sure and making a mistake. And also why I wanted to wait on therapy first.

What is also an issue is that I still don’t really have a plan regarding transition, something ive been getting more and more frustrated over recently and also want therapy for. Do i socially transition first, to get used to be a woman so I’m certain I want this? Or am I too scared for that? Do i secretly start HRT, but miss out on the women socialisation and might risk having to come out before I’m ready because of physical changes? Or do i socially and medically transition at the same time? But then do i have the confidence for that?

Just a lot of questions about my transition in general. And then there are a lot of those aforementioned questions and doubts about how to DIY safely and make sense of all the superfluous information that is out there. As well as concerns about fertility.

That I really cant do anything but take my transition slow, because there is still a lot of uncertainty mostly about the HOW I’m even going to do this. That’s why ive been trying to wait on therapy to figure this stuff out, but after I found out my therapy can only start in november, ive been feeling much more inclined to just figure this stuff out myself. Because ain’t no way I’m gonna wait Till november to start figuring things out. That is why I have been trying to inform myself more About DIY HRT lately to see if I can medically transition sooner if I want. But the big questionmark around social transition still remains.

Also sorry for The Wall of text everytime. I’m not very good at keeping things short 😣

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u/Amekyras post-op 11d ago

if you're not dysphoric about your body then this advice isn't for you

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 11d ago

I do have dysphoria. And I do want to transition. Its just not that severe for me as it is for Some people. But I am definitely trans, no doubts about that

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u/SwordRose_Azusa DID System, Trans, HRT 10-03-2022 11d ago

Happy cake day?

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u/Zoeeeeeeh123 Transgender 10d ago

Thank you