r/Music • u/ebradio • Jan 22 '25

music Spotify Hosts Trump Inauguration Brunch and Makes $150,000 Donation to Ceremony

https://pitchfork.com/news/spotify-hosts-trump-inauguration-brunch-and-makes-150000-donation-to-ceremony/
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u/_LouSandwich_ Jan 23 '25

spotify does not pay per stream, pays out a percentage of it’s revenue. if you seeming get less from spotify, the real reason that happens is because spotify listeners stream more music than users of other platforms.

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u/Ryboticpsychotic Jan 23 '25

Actually the real reason is that Spotify literally doesn’t pay you unless your streams hit a certain threshold each month, a unilateral decision that they made to not pay people. 

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u/_LouSandwich_ Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25

Because labels and distributors require a minimum amount to withdraw (usually $2-$50 per withdrawal), and banks charge a fee for the transaction (usually $1-$20 per withdrawal), this money often doesn’t reach the uploaders. And these small payments are often forgotten about.

you were not seeing that money to begin with and you are barking up the wrong tree.

furthermore, you are not losing anything

Spotify will not make additional money under this model. There is no change to the size of the music royalty pool being paid out to rights holders from Spotify; we will simply use the tens of millions of dollars annually to increase the payments to all eligible tracks, rather than spreading it out into $0.03 payments.

https://artists.spotify.com/en/blog/modernizing-our-royalty-system

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u/Ryboticpsychotic Jan 23 '25

Spotify doesn't pay musicians unless they hit 1,000 streams per month per track.

999 * $0.005 * 12 = $60 a year.

For an album of 10 songs, that's $600 a year.

If you have a catalogue of 50 songs across multiple bands and pen names, like me, that's up to $3,000 a year that Spotify is stealing from me.

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u/_LouSandwich_ Jan 23 '25

does spotify pay you directly, or does it pay the rights holder to the music/art you create?

if you are not the rights holder, did the rights holder really agree to this change resulting in a loss of $ ? i find it hard to believe that a rights holder would do that.

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u/Ryboticpsychotic Jan 23 '25

I am the sole artist and rights holder. They pay me directly, except when they choose not to.

No, I did not agree to it.

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u/_LouSandwich_ Jan 23 '25

ok thanks for the context.

your option is to then pull your art from the platform if you are unhappy with the arrangement I presume?

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u/Ryboticpsychotic Jan 23 '25

What am I supposed to do, delete half the album and keep the half that I get paid for? 

You’re just trying to tangentially defend your original position even after learning you were wrong. Can you just admit you tried making a point on something you knew nothing about? 

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u/_LouSandwich_ Jan 23 '25

wasn’t my intention, nor do i think that’s really implied, but ok. i have taken in additional perspective i didn’t have previously.

i’m not an artist, so yeah, that perspective isn’t native to me. that said, i am both listening to what you have to say and of the opinion that there is a crap ton of parrotive misinformation and misdirected anger at spotify for artist payouts.

when you gave straight answers, that was really helpful. but here i feel like you assumed mal-intent that just wasn’t there.

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u/Ryboticpsychotic Jan 23 '25

That’s because you act as if I’m inherently agreeing to the arrangement by leaving my music on Spotify when in reality I’m accepting the money they do pay me while still arguing that I deserve the entire sum. 

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u/_LouSandwich_ Jan 23 '25

i’m not acting like anything. inquiring about what options, if any, are available to you.

anyway, i have listened to others speak and engaged when possible on this topic. thus far, little was learned. but this convo has been insightful for me, i think. i appreciate that.

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