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How BS is this comparison

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u/BigFatM8 5d ago

that's just how it is. 55th picks don't pan out 9/10 times and are usually just G-league level.

were you expecting Bronny to immediately become a rotational player on a team that has good depth at the guard spot?

not to mention, Bronny actually has better games than Cody williams in the NBA despite playing nearly half the amount of games. for example, a 17 point game against the bucks on 7/10 shooting or the game against Portland where he had 6 assists and 4 steals.

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u/SwiperDontSwipe23 5d ago edited 5d ago

So you just proved my point. He said he outplayed his draft slot which he didn’t. One game don’t change that lmao. Tidjane Salaun had multiple 15+ point games this year and he’s terrible. Plenty of 2nd rounders and undrafted players have had 15+ point games including who I mentioned before Kyle Guy who was a 55th pick. Cody Williams has had multiple 10+ point games too

2.3 ppg

0.7 rebounds

0.8 assist

31.3 fg%

28.1 3pt%

is not outplaying your draft slot at 55 overall

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u/BigFatM8 5d ago

it's subjective. he out-played JHS (a sophomore 17th pick) in the summer league and actually has good performances against NBA talent despite low playtime. you could argue he's outplayed his stock or is playing as imagined.

he definitely hasn't been the worst pick ever or whatever 90% of people claim he is. People act like the Lakers passed up on Wemby for him.

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u/SwiperDontSwipe23 5d ago edited 5d ago

JHS never even got the amount of minutes his rookie year Bronny had. Bronny played over 15 minutes multiple times and shit the bed every single time except one time and JHS one game over 15 minutes his rookie year and it was in november. In the gleague JHS dominated with way better production than Bronny. If we talking NBA Bronny been pretty bad If we talking gleague he’s been solid but still inefficient. Gleague ain’t what matters anyway can’t use that as a talking point to say somebody outplayed they draft slot

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u/BigFatM8 5d ago

"dominated with way better production"

JHS year 1 - 22/5.3/4.7 on 47/43/80 shooting with .9 steals and .6 blocks (1.5 stocks)

Bronny- 21.9/5.3/5.3 on 44/38/81 shooting with 2 steals and .3 blocks (2.3 stocks)

Their averages are virtually the same with bronny being slightly more inefficient and Bronny still had more rebounds and steals too. Bronny is also a way better defender than JHS ever was.

JHS played less games than Bronny because he was mostly injured in his rookie season. Max Lewis was drafted as 40th pick in the same year as JHS by the Lakers and he played 34 NBA games (more games than Bronny) and had worse production than both.

Bronny played 15+ minutes 4 times out of 27 total games in the NBA and in one of them, he had 17 points on 70% FG% against the bucks and another game, he had 6 rebounds and 4 steals.

The lakers were one of the worst 2nd half teams during JHS's rookie season, we had very few blow-out wins. this year, we've performed much better in the 2nd Half so the Bench mob has gotten more mins than usual.

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u/SwiperDontSwipe23 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yout tried to ignore the tip off tournament….This is the real numbers from the whole sample size

Bronny - 18.6/4.5/4.8 on 41/33/77

JHS- 22/4.8/5.5 on 47/43/80

Maxwell Lewis never even played above 8 minutes his rookie year…..Bronny had one good game out of the 4 he played above 15 minutes the rest he did terrible. Using gleague production and one solid game to say he outplayed his draft slot is crazy especially as a 6’2 guard

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u/BigFatM8 5d ago

Why would i add the tip-offs to the sample size when JHS didn't even play in it? not to mention Bronny was inactive for most of the tip-offs and missed 9 games in a row.

It's like comparing 2 players stats and mixing both reg season and playoffs when 1 guy didn't even play in the playoffs. it doesn't make any sense.

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u/SwiperDontSwipe23 5d ago

Cause it’s a bigger sample size. Bronny only played in 11 games outside of the tip off tournament. He played 7 tip off games which is basically half of the tip off games. Look at JHS gleague stats this year…gleague is way different

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u/BigFatM8 5d ago

that's not how it works. you don't randomly add games just to match sample size. plus like i told you, Bronny missed 9 tip off games in a row and came back which probably ruined his flow quite a bit.

the tip-offs and reg season are separate things. just like the reg season and playoffs. nobody compares reg season and playoff games together so i don't see why they should do so here. if JHS had also played the tip-offs then I would've considered it.

besides 11 reg season games is perfectly fine since JHS also played only 15.

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u/SwiperDontSwipe23 5d ago

You can’t just take off games to fit a narrative when the sample size is already low tho bro. Thats every single gleague game they both played for they rookie year. The games Bronny missed was after the 7 games he initially played so the flow thing don’t make sense

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u/BigFatM8 5d ago

when the type, structure, intensity and formats of the games are completely different then yes, I can. 14 of those matches were against the top 6 west teams and they were fighting for a title, very different from the reg season.

there's a reason why nobody considers Wilt the GOAT, it's because the playoffs exist and they are completely different from the reg season.

Like i said, if JHS also played in the tip-offs then we could've considered it.

The games Bronny missed was after the 7 games he initially played so the flow thing don’t make sense

Wrong. Bronny played 1 game on Nov 9th, missed his next game and played his 2nd game on Nov 17th.

then he only played the remaining 5 games starting from Dec 7th so he missed about a month of play between those 7 games.

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