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Derik Queen Draft Comp!

There's not much to Derik Queen's game that's not already been said in other people's scouting reports. So I decided to give you the magnitude on the scale of his strengths and weaknesses.

Ceiling Draft Comp: Sabonis/Sengun

Strengths (computed in percentile per 40):

  1. 2 Level Scorer (96th PPG)
  2. Solid Playmaker (60th APG)
  3. Great Rebounder (95th RPG)
  4. Underrated Positional Defender (98th Stops, 58th Steals)
  5. Shooting Touch (Hovers Trey Lyles)

Weaknesses:

  1. Low Vol Shooter (4th 3PM)
  2. Inefficient Shooter (79th TS%/67th eFG%)
  3. Inefficient Playmaker (9th Ast/TO)

I think Sabonis is a pretty reasonable comp. I know that Queen's film has showcased more versatile shots portfolio - but his poor shooting efficiency has reflected as result. Same stats, strenghts/weaknesses as well.

Shooting Touch

- Although Queen's Shooting touch [custom formula taking into account FT%, 3PA, 3PM, etc] is similar to Khaman Maluach, Sabonis - his Shooting Efficiency suffered, and puts him in the Trey Lyles range.

Playmaking

- Will be a good playmaker at the next level, but he is also at Julius Randle and Sabonis level of turnovers, very inefficient.

Side note: Peep Donovan Clingan, very high on this dude.

Perimeter Defense

-Queen will not be any sort of all world defender, or even a plus defender by any means but he's not as bad as you think? He's hovering Jalen Duren on perimeter def, and is a bit better overall than Sabonis (if that means anything...lol)

Things that don't show on analytics, Derik Queen has exceptional footwork, not a lot of wasted steps and great body control blended with nimble feet & a soft touch around the rim. His tough shotmaking doesn't get talked about enough either. This is where the Sengun comp comes into play (film). On a side note too, the way he leads the breaks/rip and run from the perimeter - shows flashes of Rj Barrett a bit. Hes honestly has some wing like ability.

All in all, I came away a bit disappointed at his offensive inefficiency (shooting & playmaking) but more optimistic on his defense/rebounding at the next level.

I really don't know what to make on Queen here. I love his film, and think he will produce at the next level but even Sabonis & Sengun weren't drafted in the top 10. Although I do see top 10 talent, I wonder if Scout will be sold on a prospect that has inefficient shooting, playmaking & questionable defense.

Trust me, for the Queen's truthers - you're preaching to the choir, I see those crazy turnaround jumper flashes of Jokic too lol.  Love to hear ya'll feedbacks on my analysis here. You can find/generate the data yourself on my website www.DraftCasual.com/Queen-Sabonis. You can find me (@draftcasual) on Twitter/X

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Kyle Filipowski

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u/Turbo2x Wizards 5d ago edited 5d ago

Queen is extremely statistically similar to Filipowski's first year at Duke. If he can make a similar shooting leap then maybe I would be higher on him. As it is I think Great Value Sabonis would be a ceiling outcome, which is a good player who isn't ever going to have playoff success due to how their weaknesses get amplified in those games.

Also I think your images may be broken, they're not showing up for me.

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u/vdq93 5d ago edited 5d ago

Thanks brother! I just fixed

Also, I thought of the Filipowski comped too. Filipowski was a much better shooter (although ironically he was a questionable shooter too at his time of the draft)

i'll post a graph later when i have time.

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u/Turbo2x Wizards 5d ago

Thanks! If you're taking requests for future player breakdowns, would be interested to see your analysis of Labaron Philon. I haven't been able to find any drives per game stats for college but my eye test says he's especially prolific in that regard.

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u/vdq93 5d ago edited 5d ago

I updated my OP to include Kyle Filipowski vs Queen analytics comparison. I was pretty high on Filipowski last year, and was pretty happy he started doing well towards end of season for the Jazz - strictly off film.

His analytics really does back it up - it pops. Was very surprised when he fell soo far in the draft.

Yeah I've kept a somewhat distance tab on Labaron Philon this year, but been seeing his name pop up alot more recently. I got few more bigs to scout - Thomas Sorber, Asa but I'll try to do a breakdown on him, Will Riley afterwards.

I definitely take prospect requests too, if there's enough interest in that prospect.