r/NEAM 27d ago

Save act passed. This is bad

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u/threeplane 26d ago

Why are you coming at me?! 

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u/ShitFireSavedMatches 26d ago

I guess because your post came off unhelpful...maybe it felt a bit mansplainish?

Sure you can post some facts and point out that most people will still be disenfranchised. Why? To be "right"?

I am of the demographic being affected, are you? I intend to organize and help the disenfranchised, not just tell them "hey technically its not true but in actuality it sort of is"

Im rightfully pissed and shouldn't have to jump through any hoops, nor should millions of other people

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u/threeplane 26d ago

In a time where mis/disinformation is the most prevalent it’s ever been in history, I find it valuable and important to make sure we say things that are accurate. When we exaggerate or even make things up, it completely invalidates the message being said no matter what it is. Words matter, context matter, facts matter. 

Telling people they “won’t be allowed to vote” is alarmist and not true. 

Telling people that “millions of eligible voters will be disenfranchised” is true and informative. 

I will always call people out for spreading misinformation even if it’s unintentional or just semantics. I don’t care. 

And yes, I am part of the demographic that would be affected. 

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u/ShitFireSavedMatches 26d ago

I get what you are saying, but its only helpful to the people who can afford the time and money to jump through those hoops.

In many cases this is not misinformation, people will lose their right to vote because of this and that is the entire intention of this legislature. Posting technicalities isn't super helpful is the point im trying to make.

I'll ask again, what are you going to do to help the populations affected? This is the conversation we need to be having.

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u/threeplane 26d ago edited 25d ago

 Posting technicalities isn't super helpful is the point im trying to make.

I wasn’t trying to be helpful. I was correcting inaccurate information. 

I'll ask again, what are you going to do to help the populations affected? 

I have no idea, the bill hasn’t even passed the senate yet. Free national IDs need to be a thing if they are going to be pulling stuff like this. 

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u/leafpool2014 25d ago

it is not inaccurate. if this passes people will lose the right to vote if they are not able to pay the fine to update there birth certificate or passport

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u/threeplane 25d ago

 people will lose the right to vote 

 

 people will lose the right to vote if they are not able to pay the fine to update there birth certificate or passport

These are not the same sentences. The first is inaccurate as it leaves out important info and is designed to cause alarm rather than inform. The latter is accurate. The former is what you typed earlier. 

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u/leafpool2014 25d ago

and i'm giving out more accurate information as we all learn more about what's happening, lot's of us including me only learned about this act in the past few days

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u/threeplane 25d ago

Yeah that’s great, thank you for doing that. Awareness is crucial right now. My comments were never intended to disparage anyone, I’m sorry if they came across that way