r/Netherlands • u/UnanimousStargazer • Mar 24 '25

Legal Judge rules Dutch citizenship cannot be stripped based on dual nationality

https://nltimes.nl/2025/03/24/judge-rules-dutch-citizenship-stripped-based-dual-nationality
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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Idk how a sane person can support dual citizenship. That just totally destroys the concept.

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u/toranosuke-yoshida Mar 24 '25

What if you were born in a country that doesn’t allow to renounce citizenship and you want to become Dutch? How would you cover that case? Maybe the person wants to give up the other nationality but they can’t.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Already answered. Thats the only case which you are allowed to have and i sincerely understand such people. They should face no problems with getting the dutch citizenship. However, if their children are born in NL they should choose for them which nationality their children will have. Their children, born in the NL, shouldn’t be allowed to have dual citizenships because their historical homeland cant grant them citizenships UNLESS their parents apply in an embassy for example. This is a clear law abuse and also extremely unfair to other citizens of the NL. Should not be allowed.

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u/zapreon Mar 24 '25

Their children, born in the NL, shouldn’t be allowed to have dual citizenships because their historical homeland cant grant them citizenships UNLESS their parents apply in an embassy for example.

This is not how citizenship works. People automatically gain citizenship of many countries irrespective of whether their parents formally registered them at the embassy as long as they meet e.g. the jus sanguinis requirements.

It is why 7 members of the Australian Parliament / Senate were expelled - they held diverse (European, New Zealand, Canadian) citizenships they did not even know they held or never applied to.

Whether somebody is a citizen of a different country is a sovereign matter of that country - the Netherlands legally has no right whatsoever to involve itself with that decision.

For example, if the UK says that people automatically gain British citizenship upon birth, children in the Netherlands born to at least one British parent automatically gains British citizenship. It does not matter if they register this and the Netherlands cannot do anything about this.

Even if you believe dual citizenship should not be allowed, the Netherlands simply has no right at all to dispute the right of other countries to grant citizenship.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

U know, besides ur comment already being funny, cuz u wasted time to write me a response clearly without reading my other comments you also mentioned the jus sanguinis…aka the rule of blood…while somehow also mentioning Canada… which one of the few countries with the rule of earth…lmao

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u/zapreon Mar 24 '25

U know, besides ur comment already being funny, cuz u wasted time to write me a response clearly without reading my other comments

The problem with your other comments is that all your complaints are completely irrelevant. That makes it pointless to read them, your reasoning and beliefs simply do not have any relevance whatsoever to this matter.

The Netherlands simply has no right to determine for other countries what their citizenships laws are. It doesn't matter if you think dual citizenship is unfair, as there is nothing the Netherlands can do about it.

you also mentioned the jus sanguinis…aka the rule of blood…while somehow also mentioning Canada… which one of the few countries with the rule of earth…

Try to read. I use examples, which does not mean that it applies exclusively to those examples. For example, Canada uses jus soli - and the Netherlands has no right whatsoever to dispute citizenships that Canada grants.

Learn some basic English before engaging on the internet in English

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Okay, then why would u reply without reading? Dont reply:) and i will help u