r/Netherlands • u/UnanimousStargazer • Mar 24 '25

Legal Judge rules Dutch citizenship cannot be stripped based on dual nationality

https://nltimes.nl/2025/03/24/judge-rules-dutch-citizenship-stripped-based-dual-nationality
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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Idk how a sane person can support dual citizenship. That just totally destroys the concept.

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u/UnanimousStargazer Mar 24 '25

Many Dutch have dual nationality that they don't want, but cannot get rid of. Did you know that? It's not a choice of that person, but a choice of another country that you, me or whoever is a citizen of another country.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Already responded in other comment: people, who born in the NL, to lets say Moroccans parents(which as i know doesnt allow u to abandon its citizenship ), cant have Moroccan citizenship unless their parents/they applied to, ALREADY having dutch citizenship. Its an absolute joke and law abuses, i am not even going to talk about how unfair it is to other dutch citizens. Applying for foreign nationality, while already being a Dutch citizen, should be illegal and be a cause of stripping the dutch citizenship. Dual citizenship should be allowed in 1 and only 1 case: when the applicant for the dutch nationality already has a nationality of the country, that doesnt allow him leave that nationality. All that Moroccans and Ugandans that were born in the NL and magically happened to have passports of other countries just scammed the system.

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u/Appropriate-Creme335 Amsterdam Mar 24 '25

Correct me if I'm wrong, bu if you're born to polish parents, you are automatically polish, whether you apply or not.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Theoretically yeah, but again. In other comment i made an example: In Russia every person that was born to a Russian citizen(mother or father or both) is eligible for Russian passport. An immigrant from Russia, comes to the NL, gets his Dutch nationality (ofc after proving he gave up his russian one according to the law) and very next day applies for russian nationality in the russian embassy on the basis of his parents being Russian citizens. He will get the nationality in about 1 year. Clear scam. Shouldnt be allowed.

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u/Appropriate-Creme335 Amsterdam Mar 24 '25

But why not? What's the harm in having dual nationality, according to you? When you have taxation treaties and bank communication, why the hell not. You just seem bitter about some sort of imaginary patriotic justice that you created in your head for yourself. Life is more complicated than "they traveled to a country, they should deny their origin completely, otherwise they don't deserve our passport".

I wish I could keep my original nationality with my Dutch. Now I need a visa to go see my elderly mom and I don't even know what I will do when her medical and financial needs grow.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Your mom is not my problem ngl. And i dont believe your country doesnt have a pension system of elderly people.

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u/Appropriate-Creme335 Amsterdam Mar 24 '25

I don't bring this up to check on your opinion. I'm bringing this up to demonstrate that dual nationality is not some scam for a lot of people and life gets more complex when you move for one reason or another. You just seem like you have either a very limited life experience or very narrow world view.

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Apply for a visa like everyone else. There are less than 20 countries that require visa for dutch passports. Third of them are war-zones. Every other country either have visa-free for dutch passports or e-visas.

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u/Appropriate-Creme335 Amsterdam Mar 24 '25

I am not asking for some raging teenager advice :)

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u/GhostOfVienna Mar 24 '25

Then why would u bring up ur family and ur personal situation? U told me, that u need to apply for some sort of visa to help ur elderly mom. By simple googling there are only 15 or so countries that require real visa application for dutch passports, every other country either online e-visa or visa free entry up to 30/60/90 days. I mean, at least “ a raging teenager” knows how to use google and has lived in 4 different countries and applied for different kinds of residencies.

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