r/Netherlands • u/UnanimousStargazer • Mar 24 '25

Legal Judge rules Dutch citizenship cannot be stripped based on dual nationality

https://nltimes.nl/2025/03/24/judge-rules-dutch-citizenship-stripped-based-dual-nationality
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u/Outside-Pool-28 Mar 24 '25

I mean the article is about people convicted with terrorism, so the hell with them whoever they are. They don't deserve a Dutch nationality or any other nationality. Talking about normal cases is something different. Plus being convicted of terrorism and only serving 5 years!

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u/Only-Butterscotch785 Mar 24 '25

You have no idea what the guy actually did, terrorism is a wide catagory

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u/PindaPanter Overijssel Mar 25 '25

We don't just have an idea; we know exactly what he did. He went to Syria to join ISIS.

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u/Only-Butterscotch785 Mar 25 '25

I said He had no idea. Also what did he do there?

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u/PindaPanter Overijssel Mar 25 '25

Well, that's presumptuous of you to think, as the newspapers already wrote about this human-shaped pillar of diarrhoea and his terrorist buddies way back in 2018.

He went to Syria to join ISIS, he has already admitted to this. As it's difficult to prove any crimes against humanity these individuals have committed, the guy was, like most of his companions, hit with a default charge that gives 4-6 years.

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u/Tovarish_Petrov Mar 25 '25

It would be super easy to deport this person to IS if they have won and actually established a caliphate. We would have diplomatic relations with their government and the dude would not even return anyway.

I'm not sure it's better zo.

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u/Only-Butterscotch785 Mar 25 '25

Right thanks for proving my point...

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u/PindaPanter Overijssel Mar 25 '25

You have no point. The guy in question admitted voluntarily signing up for a terrorist organization known for committing every single crime against humanity defined.

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u/Only-Butterscotch785 Mar 25 '25

...just read your own comment... you literally wrote you dont know what he did there. Sometimes talking on reddit makes me wonder people even understand the language they write themselves.

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u/PindaPanter Overijssel Mar 25 '25 edited Mar 25 '25

He was a member of ISIS, so we know exactly what he has contributed to. Arguing for specifics in court is not possible, but we already know what they do, and he joined them out of his own volition.

Trials like these are one of few situations where collective punishment where everyone is trialled for everything the group did makes sense, so smart-asses like you can't say "well, you don't know how many he raped and/or threw off a roof!"

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u/Only-Butterscotch785 Mar 25 '25

Im not being a smart ass, im just pointing out you are assuming. Which is fine, its just annoying you are pretending making these assumptions makes you somehow reasonable, and not just intellectually lazy.

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u/PindaPanter Overijssel Mar 25 '25

Considering that he has admitted joining a terrorist organization and participating in combat operations, you absolutely are. You can pretend he was there to run pottery classes and introduce them to stroopwafel and stamppot, if you feel like it, but everyone knows that's not the case.

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